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lemoncrush 06-06-2007 12:11 PM

Will the rest of the card for Saturday be available today, or did they just draw the belmont stakes early?

tycharles01 06-06-2007 12:12 PM

Prices should drop on CP West and Slews Tizzy

Tiago will move up some and WildCrazyGUy will take some cash too

blackthroatedwind 06-06-2007 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush
Will the rest of the card for Saturday be available today, or did they just draw the belmont stakes early?


The entire card will be out within the next two hours.

Contrary to the earlier post....Octave is not running in the Acorn. As an aside....that one looked like an article I read by Dave Grening a few days ago. Must be a coincidence.

Buffymommy 06-06-2007 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tycharles01
Prices should drop on Slews Tizzy

Why should they? Aren't I the only one betting on him?

10 pnt move up 06-06-2007 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
No chance there is that kind of disparity in actual odds.

Don't get me wrong, I think Tiago is a lot likelier to win than CP West, but he will not be less than a third CP West's price.

you may be right, maybe that is my estimation of their actually chances, Tiago about 16/100 and CP West about 5/100.

whodey17 06-06-2007 01:24 PM

Curlin should win this race rather easily, but I think that Rags will get 2nd in this race. I dont think Hard Spun will last and I dont think that CP West will run like he did at Pimilico. I could see Tiago or Crazy getting up for 3rd. But Rags seems to be the 2nd best horse in this field for this race.

byalip 06-07-2007 06:23 AM

Whatever you decide on, keep the image of Curlin blowing by Hard Spun WITH EASE fresh in your mind.

Mortimer 06-07-2007 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by byalip
Whatever you decide on, keep the image of Curlin blowing by Hard Spun WITH EASE fresh in your mind.

You are runing my Belmont analysis.








SHUT UP!

Cajungator26 06-07-2007 11:46 AM

Looking more at this tomorrow, but so far I like:

Hard Spun
Tiago
Curlin

LARHAGE 06-07-2007 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Looking more at this tomorrow, but so far I like:

Hard Spun
Tiago
Curlin

I'm with you Cajun, I just feel Hard Spun is being completely over looked here because of the Preakness, the fact he was still battling after that ridiculous move says a lot about him, this colt is gritty. I like his chances here, and like the switch to Gomez a lot for this colt. I however, see Curlin second and the filly 3rd. I love the filly, but just don't see her beating the top two.

Mortimer 06-07-2007 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LARHAGE
I'm with you Cajun, I just feel Hard Spun is being completely over looked here because of the Preakness, the fact he was still battling after that ridiculous move says a lot about him, this colt is gritty. I like his chances here, and like the switch to Gomez a lot for this colt. I however, see Curlin second and the filly 3rd. I love the filly, but just don't see her beating the top two.

-------------
Crinkle






My trash can's full.

Oh well.

Cajungator26 06-07-2007 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
-------------
Crinkle






My trash can's full.

Oh well.

You're tossing Curlin and Hard Spun?

Mortimer 06-07-2007 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
You're tossing Curlin and Hard Spun?


I tossed LaBarges post.






Did you just wake up...


...or what?

Buffymommy 06-07-2007 01:13 PM

So who are you going with ole Mortikins, since you seem to be throwing away everyone else's picks?

Mortimer 06-07-2007 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffymommy
So who are you going with ole Mortikins, since you seem to be throwing away everyone else's picks?


Well do you like Curlin' for second and HagsToWitches for third???

Mortimer 06-07-2007 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Looking more at this tomorrow, but so far I like:

Hard Spun
Tiago
Curlin


Trash can emptied.....good.








Crinkle

Trash can



Actually I should set fire to that one.

Buffymommy 06-07-2007 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
Well do you like Curlin' for second and HagsToWitches for third???


No.

Mortimer 06-07-2007 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffymommy
No.



Good.





My analysis will come up soon,but I can't post it now due to the contract with my Thursday afternoon show....youbetwhat!?

Cajungator26 06-07-2007 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
Trash can emptied.....good.








Crinkle

Trash can



Actually I should set fire to that one.

If you don't think HS and Curlin have a good chance at hitting the board, you're smoking some good shiat. :p

Mortimer 06-07-2007 03:42 PM

Hard Spun
Tiago
Curlin



And if that's your predicted order of finish you're smoking sen-sen.




Believe me......it may look like sen-sen....but it's not.

Mortimer 06-07-2007 09:40 PM

And now....may I have the cards...please?



Thank you.

Let's get right to it...aye?








Imawildandcrazyguy



But I am not.




Crinkle

Trash can










Tiago



A girl once asked me this at a dance place and I said ..."sure...why not?"



I got turned into a pretzel.

I imagine he will,too.




Crinkle


Trash can









LewsDizzy



God.


I mean...really...who's kidding who here?





Crinkle

Trash can












HagsToWitches




Do not staple,mutilate nor crinkle...go directly to trash can.





clang















C P West

Hmmm...I know that name from somewhere.




Crinkle

Trash can






Hard Spun


I still don't get the tag.

Now way I could dance to it.





Crinkle



Trash can









Curlin .




Nice horsey.



Maybe!






Nah.

Crinkle

Trash can






That's it!?


7?




Oh my God.




WAIT!




Bring that trash can back!!










Ah!...there must be someone.....nah...nah.....yup!!....oh....and those 2.


Good.









Your 3rd place finisher is CP West.


The placemeister is your Hard Spun.


And ya winnah is...








.....Curlin . . . on a Saturday afternoon
Really couldn't get away too soon
I can't imagine anything that's better
The world is ours whenever we get the trifecter
There ain't a place I'd like to be instead of . . .
Curlin . . . down a crowded backstretch ( NOT! )
Doin' anything we like to do
There's always lots of things that we can see
We can be anyone we want to be
And all those happy people we could meet just . . .
Curlin . . . on a Saturday afternoon
Really couldn't get away too soon
Ah-ha-ha [3 times]
We'll keep on spending sunny days this way
We're gonna talk and laugh our time away
I feel it comin' closer day by day
Life would be ecstasy, you and me endlessly . . .
Curlin . . . on a Saturday afternoon
Really couldn't get away too soon
Ah-ha-ha [3 time

Coach Pants 06-07-2007 09:46 PM






Dunbar 06-07-2007 09:53 PM

Some matchups and props from World Sports Exchange. WSEX always puts multiple horses on at least one side of a matchup.

You can get Slew's Tizzy + 11.5 lengths or ImaWild + 7.5 lengths (at bottom of list)
7.5 lengths is almost exactly my own "beaten lengths" for ImaWild, but I have Slew's Tizzy at "only" 8.5 beaten lengths.

HO 1 6/9 (F) CURLIN/TIAGO VS FIELD(ALL 5 MUST GO)(BEL:11) (5:55 pm ET)
Outcome Lengths Money Line
CURLIN/TIAGO PICK -125
FIELD(ALL 5 MUST GO) PICK -105

HO 3 6/9 (F) FIELD(ALL 4 MUST GO) VS RAGS TO RICHES/HARD SPUN/TIAGO (BEL:11) (5:55 pm ET)
Outcome Lengths Money Line
FIELD(ALL 4 MUST GO) PICK -150
RAGS TO RICHES/HARD SPUN/TIAGO PICK +120

HO 5 6/9 (F) CURLIN VS RAGS TO RICHES/HARD SPUN (BEL:11) (5:55 pm ET)
Outcome Lengths Money Line
CURLIN PICK -140
RAGS TO RICHES/HARD SPUN PICK +110

HO 7 6/9 (F) RAGS TO RICHES VS I.W. CRAZY GUY/TIAGO (BEL:11) (5:55 pm ET)
Outcome Lengths Money Line
RAGS TO RICHES PICK -160
I.W. CRAZY GUY/TIAGO PICK +130

HO 9 6/9 (F) TIAGO/SLEW'S TIZZY VS I.W. CRAZY GUY/CP WEST (BEL:11) (5:55 pm ET)
Outcome Lengths Money Line
TIAGO/SLEW'S TIZZY PICK -115
I.W. CRAZY GUY/CP WEST PICK -115

HO 11 6/9 (F) HARD SPUN VS I.W. CRAZY GUY/TIAGO (BEL:11) (5:55 pm ET)
Outcome Lengths Money Line
HARD SPUN PICK -125
I.W. CRAZY GUY/TIAGO PICK -105

HO 13 6/9 (F) HARD SPUN/CP WEST VS RAGS TO RICHES (BEL:11) (5:55 pm ET)
Outcome Lengths Money Line
HARD SPUN/CP WEST PICK -125
RAGS TO RICHES PICK -105

HO 15 6/9 (F) BELMONT STAKES WINNER(6,7 MUST GO) VS CURLIN (BEL:11) (5:55 pm ET)
Outcome Lengths Money Line
BELMONT STAKES WINNER(6,7 MUST GO) -1.0 +130
CURLIN +1.0 -160

HO 17 6/9 (F) BELMONT STAKES WINNER(3,6,7 MUST GO) VS IMAWILDANDCRAZYGUY (BEL:11) (5:55 pm ET)
Outcome Lengths Money Line
BELMONT STAKES WINNER(3,6,7 MUST GO) -7.5 -125
IMAWILDANDCRAZYGUY +7.5 -105

HO 19 6/9 (F) BELMONT STAKES WINNER(3,6,7 MUST GO) VS SLEW'S TIZZY (BEL:11) (5:55 pm ET)
Outcome Lengths Money Line
BELMONT STAKES WINNER(3,6,7 MUST GO) -11.5 -140
SLEW'S TIZZY +11.5 +110

--Dunbar

Danzig 06-08-2007 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
And now....may I have the cards...please?



Thank you.

Let's get right to it...aye?








Imawildandcrazyguy



But I am not.




Crinkle

Trash can










Tiago



A girl once asked me this at a dance place and I said ..."sure...why not?"



I got turned into a pretzel.

I imagine he will,too.




Crinkle


Trash can









LewsDizzy



God.


I mean...really...who's kidding who here?





Crinkle

Trash can












HagsToWitches




Do not staple,mutilate nor crinkle...go directly to trash can.





clang















C P West

Hmmm...I know that name from somewhere.




Crinkle

Trash can






Hard Spun


I still don't get the tag.

Now way I could dance to it.





Crinkle



Trash can









Curlin .




Nice horsey.



Maybe!






Nah.

Crinkle

Trash can






That's it!?


7?




Oh my God.




WAIT!




Bring that trash can back!!










Ah!...there must be someone.....nah...nah.....yup!!....oh....and those 2.


Good.









Your 3rd place finisher is CP West.


The placemeister is your Hard Spun.


And ya winnah is...








.....Curlin . . . on a Saturday afternoon
Really couldn't get away too soon
I can't imagine anything that's better
The world is ours whenever we get the trifecter
There ain't a place I'd like to be instead of . . .
Curlin . . . down a crowded backstretch ( NOT! )
Doin' anything we like to do
There's always lots of things that we can see
We can be anyone we want to be
And all those happy people we could meet just . . .
Curlin . . . on a Saturday afternoon
Really couldn't get away too soon
Ah-ha-ha [3 times]
We'll keep on spending sunny days this way
We're gonna talk and laugh our time away
I feel it comin' closer day by day
Life would be ecstasy, you and me endlessly . . .
Curlin . . . on a Saturday afternoon
Really couldn't get away too soon
Ah-ha-ha [3 time

all the waiting, the suspense, the build up--for that?! curlin, hard spun,i'mawild--hell, i said that days ago!

Dunbar 06-08-2007 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
all the waiting, the suspense, the build up--for that?! curlin, hard spun,i'mawild--hell, i said that days ago!

Uh, before Morty takes a football field to tell you, I believe his tri is Curlin, Hard Spun, CP West.

--Dunbar

Danzig 06-08-2007 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar
Uh, before Morty takes a football field to tell you, I believe his tri is Curlin, Hard Spun, CP West.

--Dunbar

oops!

guess i misread his spaced out post.

Dunbar 06-08-2007 06:42 AM

Future odds at TheGreek: (odds to 1)

Imawild, 10.15
Tiago, 10.15
Curlin, 1.25
CP West, 10.45
Slew's Tizzy, 25.50
Hard Spun, 4.05
Rags to Riches, 3.45

--Dunbar

Mortimer 06-08-2007 07:57 AM

Oh well excuse my stinkin' behind.


I thought giving out opinions instead of just picks meant something.

I'll leave you both to your dart boards.








Ufrigginbelieveable.

jman5581 06-08-2007 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
And now....may I have the cards...please?



Thank you.

Let's get right to it...aye?








Imawildandcrazyguy



But I am not.




Crinkle

Trash can










Tiago



A girl once asked me this at a dance place and I said ..."sure...why not?"



I got turned into a pretzel.

I imagine he will,too.




Crinkle


Trash can









LewsDizzy



God.


I mean...really...who's kidding who here?





Crinkle

Trash can












HagsToWitches




Do not staple,mutilate nor crinkle...go directly to trash can.





clang















C P West

Hmmm...I know that name from somewhere.




Crinkle

Trash can






Hard Spun


I still don't get the tag.

Now way I could dance to it.





Crinkle



Trash can









Curlin .




Nice horsey.



Maybe!






Nah.

Crinkle

Trash can






That's it!?


7?




Oh my God.




WAIT!




Bring that trash can back!!










Ah!...there must be someone.....nah...nah.....yup!!....oh....and those 2.


Good.









Your 3rd place finisher is CP West.


The placemeister is your Hard Spun.


And ya winnah is...








.....Curlin . . . on a Saturday afternoon
Really couldn't get away too soon
I can't imagine anything that's better
The world is ours whenever we get the trifecter
There ain't a place I'd like to be instead of . . .
Curlin . . . down a crowded backstretch ( NOT! )
Doin' anything we like to do
There's always lots of things that we can see
We can be anyone we want to be
And all those happy people we could meet just . . .
Curlin . . . on a Saturday afternoon
Really couldn't get away too soon
Ah-ha-ha [3 times]
We'll keep on spending sunny days this way
We're gonna talk and laugh our time away
I feel it comin' closer day by day
Life would be ecstasy, you and me endlessly . . .
Curlin . . . on a Saturday afternoon
Really couldn't get away too soon
Ah-ha-ha [3 time

that was pretty funny...

Cajungator26 06-08-2007 09:18 AM

Mort's post is...

















































Crinkle.

Trash can.

Downthestretch55 06-08-2007 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Mort's post is...

















































Crinkle.

Trash can.

Crinkle and Trash Can aren't running in the Belmont.

Mortimer 06-08-2007 09:27 AM

BentMyPud is going to be furious with us all.

Buffymommy 06-08-2007 09:29 AM

Morty is a chalk eater!!!! Oh geez!

Cajungator26 06-08-2007 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
BentMyPud is going to be furious with us all.

Wortimer, did you see that HAHAHA, Crinkle and Trash Can are late entrants for the Belmont? Trash Can is sure to give Curlin a run for the money.

Mortimer 06-08-2007 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffymommy
Morty is a chalk eater!!!! Oh geez!

Well no.



I call what I see.....I don't remember saying I bet any Monopoly money here.

Mortimer 06-08-2007 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Wortimer, did you see that HAHAHA, Crinkle and Trash Can are late entrants for the Belmont? Trash Can is sure to give Curlin a run for the money.

Oh that was a real knee slapper all right.

Buffymommy 06-08-2007 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
Well no.



I call what I see.....I don't remember saying I bet any Monopoly money here.


Just saying you went with the #1 and #2 picks. That was hard.... Just giving you a hard time morty as I should since you threw my pick in the trash can.

Mortimer 06-08-2007 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffymommy
Just saying you went with the #1 and #2 picks. That was hard.... Just giving you a hard time morty as I should since you threw my pick in the trash can.

Now you listen to me.




Don't ever take me seriously or I will kill you.

Let me give you an example.......uh.....oh!...I see Philski.

Watch this.

Cajungator26 06-08-2007 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffymommy
Just saying you went with the #1 and #2 picks. That was hard.... Just giving you a hard time morty as I should since you threw my pick in the trash can.

Not to fear, Buffy... Trash Can has a real shot to win the whole thing!!!

Cajungator26 06-08-2007 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy
Oh that was a real knee slapper all right.

I'll be here all day.

*Bows*








































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