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Secretriat34 10-19-2016 01:49 PM

Name that Colt ...look at the size of this un-named colts neck and shoulder...yikes






was it D Wayne who said he looked at that part of a colt to determine speed ?.....why yes, I think it was D Wayne

Secretriat34 10-19-2016 01:53 PM

Where O'Where should Frosty go ?
 
this picture just looks funny, it makes me smile...like a pets picture ...kinda reminds me of...MR ED...wwhhyllllburrr



Trainer Kiaran McLaughlin wasn't ready to confirm Oct. 19 which Breeders' Cup race Godolphin Racing's Frosted would start in. What McLaughlin did sign off on was the fact the 4-year-old son of Tapit continues to march towards either goal in good order with his latest progession being a six-furlong work in 1:11 at Greentree Training Center in Saratoga Springs, N.Y.

McLaughlin said the team will likely announce Oct. 20 if the multiple grade I winner is going in the Breeders' Cup Classic (gr. I) Nov. 5 at Santa Anita Park or the Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile (gr. I) on Nov. 4. Though he wouldn't indicate which race he was personally leaning towards, McLaughlin did reiterate his concern about the Dirt Mile being a two-turn test.

"It's just a short run to the first turn and you can get into traffic and this and that," McLaughlin said. "That's my concern, but it's not my call. We'll do whatever the boss (Sheikh Mohammed) wants to do.

McLaughlin likes the spacing coming into the Breeders' Cup more than he did Frosted's previous outing.

"He's doing great and with the 60 days (going into the Classic), you can tell his energy level is very high," McLaughlin said. "He worked great, we're very pleased with him. And I think it's a better situation than the 30 days (from the Whitney into the Woodward) that we did last time."

from BH

Kasept 10-19-2016 02:39 PM

PRIVMAN: As of Wednesday, there were 11 horses possible for the Classic..

Arrogate (Mike Smith)
California Chrome (Victor Espinoza)
Frosted (Rosario)
Gun Runner (Florent Geroux)
Effinex (TBA)
Hoppertunity (John Velazquez)
Melatonin (Joe Talamo)
Nyquist (Mario Gutierrez)
Shaman Ghost (Javier Castellano)
War Story (TBA)
Win the Space (Gary Stevens)

Secretriat34 10-19-2016 02:54 PM

lets type about Frosted.
his performance in the Met Mile was staggering.
he would probably win the BCMile...for $600,000

or

he can run 2nd for 1.5 million in the BCC
or 3rd for more than the mile win money..

do you want to be the mile champion, or the place/show horse in the classic.

he will be a part of ther superfecta in the BCC..( Chrome, and Arrogate should also be in the super)

Bcc bet super...chrome, arro, Frosty, / all.
put all in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th spots on the ticket.

cakes44 10-19-2016 08:13 PM

Frosted would be off the board in the classic. My opinion. To be honest, I'm looking forward to betting against Frosted in whatever race he goes in. That opinion makes me more potential $$ in the dirt mile if he goes there though.

RHT2004 10-19-2016 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Secretriat34 (Post 1079604)
lets type about Frosted.
his performance in the Met Mile was staggering.
he would probably win the BCMile...for $600,000

or

he can run 2nd for 1.5 million in the BCC
or 3rd for more than the mile win money..

do you want to be the mile champion, or the place/show horse in the classic.

he will be a part of ther superfecta in the BCC..( Chrome, and Arrogate should also be in the super)

Bcc bet super...chrome, arro, Frosty, / all.
put all in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th spots on the ticket.

Always good to play chalk chalk chalk all. Even when one of the 3 can't lose.

jms62 10-19-2016 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Secretriat34 (Post 1079604)
lets type about Frosted.
his performance in the Met Mile was staggering.
he would probably win the BCMile...for $600,000

or

he can run 2nd for 1.5 million in the BCC
or 3rd for more than the mile win money..

do you want to be the mile champion, or the place/show horse in the classic.

he will be a part of ther superfecta in the BCC..( Chrome, and Arrogate should also be in the super)

Bcc bet super...chrome, arro, Frosty, / all.
put all in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th spots on the ticket.

Sorry to piss on your parade but you may "Win" your bet but lose money with this ticket.

gamblin4ever 10-20-2016 06:47 AM

Nyquist should go to the Dirt Mile instead of the Classic.

Kasept 10-20-2016 09:00 AM

GRENING: Frosted confirmed for Classic; will not pre-enter Dirt Mile

As expected, multiple G1 winner Frosted will make his next start in the $6 million Breeders' Cup Classic at Santa Anita on Nov. 5, trainer Kiaran McLaughlin just confirmed.

McLaughlin said Frosted would not be pre-entered for the Dirt Mile.

"All of us talking, John Ferguson went to the boss and everybody agreed the Classic was the best option for a few reasons," McLaughlin said.

cakes44 10-20-2016 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamblin4ever (Post 1079642)
Nyquist should go to the farm instead of the Classic.

Fixed that for you.

Thunder Gulch 10-20-2016 10:59 AM

Headed to the Classic, where most will dismiss his chances. It sure looks like he is up against it, but he has run as fast as any on occasion.

taxicab 10-20-2016 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch (Post 1079654)
Headed to the Classic, where most will dismiss his chances. It sure looks like he is up against it, but he has run as fast as any on occasion.

I'm kind of glad he's going in the Classic,he brings a nice resume into the race.
If he doesn't go in the Classic,then HOY will be down to Chrome.......and perhaps Songbird(if CC loses and SB wins).
If Frosted upsets in the Classic..........I think he wins HOY.
Frosted in the BCC is good for racing......

RHT2004 10-21-2016 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taxicab (Post 1079679)
I'm kind of glad he's going in the Classic,he brings a nice resume into the race.
If he doesn't go in the Classic,then HOY will be down to Chrome.......and perhaps Songbird(if CC loses and SB wins).
If Frosted upsets in the Classic..........I think he wins HOY.
Frosted in the BCC is good for racing......

When Arrogate canters home, I'm pretty sure HOY is his.

Secretriat34 10-21-2016 09:10 AM

Arrogate is such a wild card.
he is a huge beast , and Baffert speaks about his long stride and how he needs all 10f...:eek:

he created quite a ruckus at Saratoga, getting the canoe painted his way
setting records that were in place for decades breaking marks even the best in the historical game have not matched.

will ARROGATE be another Zito trained,BELLAMY ROAD (winning the Wood Memorial by a record 17 1/2 lengths in stakes-record time of 1:47.16 – also equaling the 1 1/8-mile track record at Aqueduct.)

As Andy Beyer typed :
Bellamy Road could very well be in a class by himself.
Owner George Steinbrenner's colt has raced twice this year (2005), winning an allowance race at Gulfstream Park by nearly 16 lengths and the Wood Memorial Stakes by 17 1/2 , earning a stratospheric Beyer Speed Figure of 120, the best ever recorded in a prep race for the Derby. (but then again, that was the milkshake era) This one performance suggested that Bellamy Road might be another Secretariat, Affirmed or Seattle Slew.

2nd in the mid summers derby in 2005, that was all there was for Ballamy.

OR..

will Arrogate go on to better and bigger things.

I dunno ?

who does ?...:confused:

RHT2004 10-21-2016 09:29 AM

I know.
He jogs. I honestly and truly expect an improvement/move forward from the Travers. And when this happens even Chrome won't have a prayer.

gamblin4ever 10-21-2016 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1079686)
I know.
He jogs. I honestly and truly expect an improvement/move forward from the Travers. And when this happens even Chrome won't have a prayer.


Don't count CC out, he is a fighter and won't give up easily.

Secretriat34 10-21-2016 09:53 AM

ahhh...paradise..blow me for luck...i mean pair of dice

gamblin4ever 10-21-2016 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1079128)
Huge huge fan of Corona Del Inca big shot here.

What do you like about her? Her record isn't much, hasn't raced since May and except for those 2 sub 48 workouts, the workouts are not that great. I'm interested in your opinion, that's why I'm asking.

knickslions2 10-21-2016 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1079686)
I know.
He jogs. I honestly and truly expect an improvement/move forward from the Travers. And when this happens even Chrome won't have a prayer.

You keep saying this over and over and Chrome keeps dusting you. When Chrome beats him into the ground do you promise to stop this?

Indian Charlie 10-21-2016 12:09 PM

Arrogate, his travers is better than any race chrome has run. If he can duplicate that race, it will be next to impossible for him to get beat. It's a huge if though.


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