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cakes44 10-13-2015 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 1045214)
Keen Ice -- what type of odds should we expect from him?

Certainly not the 15-1, my guess would be 8-1?

You'll get plenty better than 8-1.

Holybull1 10-14-2015 06:58 AM

The odds Steve posted are pretty spot on assuming the top 3 all run. I think I will be keying Keen Ice also at this point. Looks like Irad will be aboard.

Bogey 10-14-2015 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 1045214)
Keen Ice -- what type of odds should we expect from him?

Certainly not the 15-1, my guess would be 8-1?

If the Classic field stays intact, I don't see where he's under 12-1 IMO.

Kasept 10-14-2015 09:22 AM

Major work for American Pharoah; 7f in 1:23
By Jay Privman

AMERICAN PHAROAH dialed up the length and pace of his preparation for the Breeders' Cup Classic on Wednesday morning at Santa Anita with a seven-furlong drill, in company, that got an official time of 1:23.

Trainer Bob Baffert had gone fairly easy with American Pharoah since putting him back in training after the Travers but said last week that he'd get serious this week and he was good to his word. "I wanted to get a strong work into him," Baffert said. "It looked like he handled it really well."

Per usual, American Pharoah came out just after the 6:30 renovation break. With regular work rider Martin Garcia aboard, Pharoah broke off at the six-furlong pole about seven lengths behind a workmate, collared the filly he was chasing in upper stretch, hit the wire five in front in 1:11.20, and went out to the seven-furlong pole in 1:23.

Dane Nelson, Santa Anita's head clocker, had American Pharoah galloping out a mile in 1:35.40. Baffert had Pharoah in 1:24, out a mile in 1:37. Regardless, it was a major piece of work as American Pharoah gets set to face elders for the first time while going 1 1/4 miles in his first start in two months.

bare it all 10-14-2015 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1045236)
Dane Nelson, Santa Anita's head clocker, had American Pharoah galloping out a mile in 1:35.40. Baffert had Pharoah in 1:24, out a mile in 1:37. Regardless, it was a major piece of work as American Pharoah gets set to face elders for the first time while going 1 1/4 miles in his first start in two months.

That's a pretty significant difference. Who's watch would you trust?

GenuineRisk 10-14-2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bare it all (Post 1045247)
That's a pretty significant difference. Who's watch would you trust?

Haskin tweeted that he thinks Baffert's time sounded more likely.

FATPIANO 10-15-2015 12:06 PM

Today’s Headlines»

Beholder 'Beautiful' in Final SoCal Breeze

Another solid workout by Beholder, Mandella shipping to Keeneland on the 19th, and will have her final workout about 4/5 days before The Big Race, all systems go!!!!!!!!!!

freddymo 10-15-2015 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FATPIANO (Post 1045322)
Today’s Headlines»

Beholder 'Beautiful' in Final SoCal Breeze

Another solid workout by Beholder, Mandella shipping to Keeneland on the 19th, and will have her final workout about 4/5 days before The Big Race, all systems go!!!!!!!!!!

Rumor has it Gary Stevens believes she is the "best horse he has ever ridden"...AGAIN

FATPIANO 10-15-2015 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1045324)
Rumor has it Gary Stevens believes she is the "best horse he has ever ridden"...AGAIN

She is!!!!!

freddymo 10-15-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FATPIANO (Post 1045331)
She is!!!!!

I think I would give Point Given a fighting chance against her..lol

I am not remotely sure she is the best Filly/mare he has ridden Serena's song won like billion G1's and Winning Colors was brilliant as well.. This is Steven's being Steven's whatever good horse he is on is the Best Ever. Whatever

I forgot Silverbulletday she wasnt chopped liver either

FATPIANO 10-15-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1045334)
I think I would give Point Given a fighting chance against her..lol

I am not remotely sure she is the best Filly/mare he has ridden Serena's song won like billion G1's and Winning Colors was brilliant as well.. This is Steven's being Steven's whatever good horse he is on is the Best Ever. Whatever

I forgot Silverbulletday she wasnt chopped liver either

lol..........I think all jockeys say the same thing

FATPIANO 10-16-2015 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1045334)
I think I would give Point Given a fighting chance against her..lol

I am not remotely sure she is the best Filly/mare he has ridden Serena's song won like billion G1's and Winning Colors was brilliant as well.. This is Steven's being Steven's whatever good horse he is on is the Best Ever. Whatever

I forgot Silverbulletday she wasnt chopped liver either

Stevens has ridden Beholder 10 times, winning 9 stakes, the one loss was in NY, she came out of the race with a gash on her leg and was sidelined 2 mos. I think they are a perfect match, insync with each other, and I really expect her to romp in 2 weeks.

freddymo 10-16-2015 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FATPIANO (Post 1045378)
Stevens has ridden Beholder 10 times, winning 9 stakes, the one loss was in NY, she came out of the race with a gash on her leg and was sidelined 2 mos. I think they are a perfect match, insink with each other, and I really expect her to romp in 2 weeks.

She is going to romp against these....hardily

Danzig 10-16-2015 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FATPIANO (Post 1045378)
Stevens has ridden Beholder 10 times, winning 9 stakes, the one loss was in NY, she came out of the race with a gash on her leg and was sidelined 2 mos. I think they are a perfect match, insink with each other, and I really expect her to romp in 2 weeks.

No way you can get a horse in a sink

Kasept 10-17-2015 07:23 AM

Honor Code gallops like a freight train
By Dave Grening

It's not unusual to see HONOR CODE gallop strong, but this morning he had run on his mind more than usual during his 1 1-2-mile gallop around Belmont's main track.

I caught him from the mile pole to the wire in 1:51.68 with several sub 14-second eighths including one eighth in 13 seconds flat. Took him out 1 1-8 miles in 2:06.05 and 1 1-4 miles in 2:20.34.

Talked to Shug McGaughey Friday afternoon and he indicated Honor Code would have an official workout Sunday or Monday. As if he needed one after that.

richard burch 10-18-2015 09:23 PM

Just because someone knows,
 
what does "distaff" mean?

Danzig 10-18-2015 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 1045665)
what does "distaff" mean?

Its what women spun wool with. It's a long rod or spindle

Kasept 10-19-2015 09:19 AM

Honor Code: Wow!
By David Grening

Posted : 1hr 21mins ago

HONOR CODE, prepping for the Breeders' Cup Classic, just put in a brilliantly fast workout, going a half-mile -- on my watch -- in 46.14 seconds, out five-furlongs in 58.16, six furlongs in 1:11.07 and seven furlongs in 1:24.50. I took him from the half-mile pole. Colleague Mike Vesce took him from the five-furlong pole and said he went his first eighth in 13 seconds. So, if you factor that eighth in he went a mile in 1:37.50.

Exercise rider Donna McMullen was aboard for the work, which came at 8:50 a.m. McMullen only asked Honor Code minimally late in the work and during the gallop out.

Honor Code usually works at 6:30 a.m. but I believe trainer Shug McGaughey waited until after the break to make sure water was put on the track at the renovation break. Temperatures were in the low 30s to start the day and the track was dry and fairly cuppy during early morning works.

Will have more details on this and other works later on drf.com

OldDog 10-20-2015 07:50 AM

Ruh-roh.

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Champion racemare Beholder missed her first day of training for the Oct. 31 Breeders' Cup Classic (gr. I) at Keeneland Oct. 20, when she spiked a slight temperature after shipping from California to Kentucky Oct. 19.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...g-due-to-fever

Kasept 10-20-2015 01:01 PM

Mandella: lung scan on Beholder "pristine"
By Jay Privman

A lung scan on Beholder was “pristine,” trainer Richard Mandella said Tuesday afternoon, giving him hope that the minor temperature she spiked Tuesday morning at Keeneland was merely caused by shipping the prior day from California.

Still, Mandella emphasized that he would leave “no stone unturned” in making sure nothing more serious is amiss with Beholder. At this point, though, the hope is that this is a minor hiccup. However, with Beholder having had ill-timed fevers in the past, and since she is being prepared for the Breeders’ Cup Classic on Oct. 31, the concern is obvious.

“She had a little temperature. Her blood work shows that she had a little stress reaction from the ship,” Mandella said by telephone from Kentucky. “We did an ultrasound on her lungs and they’re clear. One just hopes it’s just a little temperature caused by the ship.

“We’ll go easy with her for a few days and go from there. We’ll hope for the best. We scanned her lungs and the vet said they were pristine. That’s the good news.”


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