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knickslions2 06-07-2012 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 866770)
That is not the half of it. The girl is going to Montauk for her business partner's bachelorette party tomorrow. Friday Night Wood is just the start. After the Belmont on Saturday I have to cut straight out to AC to the Borgota for my business partner's bachelor party. The degeneracy is likely to reach new heights this weekend. :D
Life is good!!

OldDog 06-08-2012 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 866644)
Here's my column for the newspaper if anyone is interested.

http://www.goerie.com/article/201206...ng-immortality


Should be an exciting race to watch. I picked Dullahan to win mainly on the basis of value and because I think he's going to get enough early pace and I expect far turn pressure for all of his chief rivals -- as I'll Have Another, Paynter, and a less passively ridden Union Rags all have similar running styles.
That's fine work, Doug. I'm sending the link to our local sports editor to boost his feelings of inadequacy.

my miss storm cat 06-08-2012 06:17 PM
Bourbon Courage is my lock of the day.

(You all have been warned. Bet accordingly).

FATPIANO 06-09-2012 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 866678)
Thanks. I saw that a while ago and didn't purchase it. I just have never really gotten into the lore of Spectaular Bid (don't know why). But the more I hear and read about him, makes me think that I eventually pick it up.
Check it out, a great read...Did you know that The Bid ran 7 in 120 4/5 as a two year old, and later that year he won 3 grade 1 races ant 3 different tracks in a 3 week period, setting a track record for 1 1/16 in that 3 week span, that still stands today.

Calzone Lord 06-09-2012 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 866685)
Thought this horse ran a very big race in his lone turf try and think he's a very likely gate-to-wire winner at a big price. . . also with you on Desert Blanc.
$21.80 to place and got beat a nose for the win. Nice call.

outofthebox 06-09-2012 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 866685)
Thought this horse ran a very big race in his lone turf try and think he's a very likely gate-to-wire winner at a big price. . . also with you on Desert Blanc.
Threw a couple bucks to win on him, and boxed him with the wrong horses....Nice call anyway....

hockey2315 06-09-2012 02:09 PM
Had the exacta a few times, but that was pure evil. Worst beat I've had in a looong time.

Sightseek 06-09-2012 03:47 PM
Nice bounce back from the Derby.

Sightseek 06-09-2012 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 866646)
Race #10: I like Desert Blanc quite a bit. That aside, I can't remember seeing anything like the win odds on Omayad's form. He won all of his first six races by clear margins ... and went 7-for-7 to start his career without ever being sent off at odds of even money or less. That's freaking rare.

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Nice job.

Danzig 06-09-2012 05:53 PM
well, what do you know? didn't think union rags had it in him.

dalakhani 06-09-2012 05:58 PM
Why didn't smith shut off the rail?

10 pnt move up 06-09-2012 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 867748)
Why didn't smith shut off the rail?
Who knows, he should have put the winner into the rail, Pval or Pincay would have.

Coach Pants 06-09-2012 06:00 PM
Because I had the super for 30 cents with Paynter on top. Had the doubles. Also was covered with Atigun on top for everything.

It's because this sport is soul sucking. Having to be happy for others who are life and death to get the fan favorite home.

Booo.

dalakhani 06-09-2012 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 867750)
Who knows, he should have put the winner into the rail, Pval or Pincay would have.
He was clear and the outside horse wasn't going to get by.

Sightseek 06-09-2012 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 867748)
Why didn't smith shut off the rail?
I think he described it well -- he didn't want the stewards to decide the outcome. Horse vs. horse.

DaTruth 06-09-2012 06:24 PM
All you need to know about the race is that Atigun lost by only two lengths.

Travis Stone 06-09-2012 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 867751)
Because I had the super for 30 cents with Paynter on top. Had the doubles. Also was covered with Atigun on top for everything.

It's because this sport is soul sucking. Having to be happy for others who are life and death to get the fan favorite home.

Booo.
I went nuts at the top of the stretch when it looked like Atigun was the one. Bummer.

10 pnt move up 06-09-2012 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 867768)
All you need to know about the race is that Atigun lost by only two lengths.
Does the figure in the Belmont really mean much in general? Its on odd distance and race, it would be hard for me to think a horse is superior because he ran faster than average in this race, or slower for that matter, and the third place finisher being a few lengths back does not mean much either.

We know just as much now as we did before the race, that Paynter is a talented developing colt and Union Rags is one of the better horses in this crop.

And IHA would have beat both if he had been in it.

pba1817 06-09-2012 07:47 PM
What this race proves is that there are multiple trainers out there who are more interested in seeing their name in the program/form of a Classic race than doing what is actually best for their horse....

DaTruth 06-09-2012 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 867787)
Does the figure in the Belmont really mean much in general? Its on odd distance and race, it would be hard for me to think a horse is superior because he ran faster than average in this race, or slower for that matter, and the third place finisher being a few lengths back does not mean much either.

We know just as much now as we did before the race, that Paynter is a talented developing colt and Union Rags is one of the better horses in this crop.

And IHA would have beat both if he had been in it.
IHA would have crushed these. Paynter ran well and should have won. I don't think the diehard Union Rags supporters should feel any sort of vindication for his Derby loss. He is no better than the third best 3yo this year.


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