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NTamm1215 04-17-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew (Post 769772)
"Top" is a relative term. And yes you could.

Premier Pegasus' San Felipe

That's 7 that I would rate as "more impressive" than Dance City..

This one would work in my opinion. Personally, I don't really consider the San Vicente as "on the trail" but if you did then, sure, The Factor's win was a top effort.

I didn't care for the Florida Derby at all but I'd give Shackleford the nod for having run the better race. Dialed In running down the leaders in the Holy Bull was a good race for it being his 2nd start but I wouldn't refer to it as a "top" effort.

Basically, in my opinion, Dance City ran a VERY good race yesterday and has the potential to be a nice 2nd half 3YO.

philcski 04-17-2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew (Post 769758)
Exactly. Which is why 13/1 on Dance City isn't realistic. Regardless, if you want a bet ON Dance City to be accepted now, you will only get 13/1.

Correct, which is why I didn't agree with your initial list. It paints an incorrect picture- one with a roughly 40-50% takeout. The Betfair #'s can be VERY helpful though and definitely worth looking at.

justindew 04-17-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 769799)
Correct, which is why I didn't agree with your initial list. It paints an incorrect picture- one with a roughly 40-50% takeout. The Betfair #'s can be VERY helpful though and definitely worth looking at.

It wasn't my initial list, and there was nothing to agree/disagree with. Those were the odds being offered at that moment. That is a fact.

philcski 04-18-2011 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew (Post 769801)
It wasn't my initial list, and there was nothing to agree/disagree with. Those were the odds being offered at that moment. That is a fact.

So you weren't the original poster on this thread?

Let's put it this another way...
if you went to your broker in the middle of the night and asked him for a quote on a stock that doesn't trade frequently anyways, and he said $1 bid/$40 offer, what is the current price of the stock?

Scav 04-18-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 769945)
So you weren't the original poster on this thread?

Let's put it this another way...
if you went to your broker in the middle of the night and asked him for a quote on a stock that doesn't trade frequently anyways, and he said $1 bid/$40 offer, what is the current price of the stock?

$40?

MaTH716 04-18-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 769949)
$40?

I would have said $20

Scav 04-18-2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 769954)
I would have said $20

I was going to say that based on his answer earlier but I just wanted an answer quick becaues I do watch Betfair while I'm playing sometimes, and I want to know if what I have been watching / processing has been for not.

philcski 04-18-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 769949)
$40?

The answer is you don't know. Somewhere between $1 and $40. In the case of thin markets, you can make educated guesses based on the weights of money on each side if you have "outside" prices (which are available on Betfair.)


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