Derby Trail Forums

Derby Trail Forums (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/index.php)
-   Triple Crown Topics/Archive.. (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9)
-   -   2/18-20 (CD): Kentucky Derby Future Wager (Pool 1) (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40999)

RockHardTen1985 02-16-2011 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 753239)
Uncle Mo should be 2/1 to win the race, and 8/1 to make the race.

THAS is a serious animal who is about to do some serious things.

Betsy 02-16-2011 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 753230)
Of the 23....only 10 look like they have a prayer.

Strong Contender:

Uncle Mo

Somewhat of a contender:

To Honor And Serve
Silver Medallion
Dialed In

Marginal chance:

Clubhouse Ride
Mucho Macho Man (juice trainer would help)

X Factor:

Jaycito
The Factor
Machen
Soldat

I'm curious as to why you think THAS is only somewhat of a contender that you lumped in with basically a grass horse?

The Indomitable DrugS 02-16-2011 08:00 PM

He's #2 because he's not as good as Uncle Mo - and he has a very similar style of running.

The horses who thrive in the Kentucky Derby fall into two profiles:

1.) They simply prove themselves a better route horses than anyone else in the field

2.) They are horses with deep closing running styles who pick up the pieces while superior horses to them are pushing the reset button at the 5/16ths pole. (Ice Box, Pioneer of the Nile, Denis of Cork, Giacomo, and Steppenwolfer have all been in the trifecta since 2005)


Steve Asmussen would be lucky if he could have got Rachel Alexandra to win an alw race on a synthetic track when she was 3.

Betsy 02-16-2011 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 753261)
He's #2 because he's not as good as Uncle Mo - and he has a very similar style of running.

The horses who thrive in the Kentucky Derby fall into two profiles:

1.) They simply prove themselves a better route horses than anyone else in the field

2.) They are horses with deep closing running styles who pick up the pieces while superior horses to them are pushing the reset button at the 5/16ths pole. (Ice Box, Pioneer of the Nile, Denis of Cork, Giacomo, and Steppenwolfer have all been in the trifecta since 2005)


Steve Asmussen would be lucky if he could have got Rachel Alexandra to win an alw race on a synthetic track when she was 3.


Oh, I understand why he's #2 - although I'm not conceding anything to Uncle Mo, esp. since neither horse has run at 3. I'm expecting Mo to be very good, but I also have enormous confidence in THAS. Misplaced? Who knows, lol - I've been wrong before.

I've seen some polls with Dialed In on top; I love Mineshaft and I like the horse a lot, but he's always going to be at the mercy of the pace.

Dunbar 02-16-2011 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 753019)
Field will be 6-5 or less?

It's never closed that low, Randall. I'm pretty sure that last year's 3-2 is the lowest ever.

--Dunbar

randallscott35 02-16-2011 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 753266)
It's never closed that low, Randall. I'm pretty sure that last year's 3-2 is the lowest ever.

--Dunbar

Could be the year

Indian Charlie 02-16-2011 08:59 PM

No freaking way the field sets a new record low price for round 1.

This could very well be the time that the fave is an individual horse and not the field.

randallscott35 02-16-2011 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 753272)
No freaking way the field sets a new record low price for round 1.

This could very well be the time that the fave is an individual horse and not the field.

Zero chance of that

RockHardTen1985 02-16-2011 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 753273)
Zero chance of that

Not really. It will be tight.

randallscott35 02-16-2011 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 753274)
Not really. It will be tight.

Zero

VOL JACK 02-16-2011 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 753243)
THAS is a serious animal who is about to do some serious things.

Repole should have you shot.

The horse will probably Colic tonight and die, thanks to you.

hockey2315 02-16-2011 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 753303)
Repole should have you shot.

The horse will probably Colic tonight and die, thanks to you.

To Honor and Serve isn't owned by Repole.

RockHardTen1985 02-16-2011 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 753303)
Repole should have you shot.

The horse will probably Colic tonight and die, thanks to you.

F

U

RockHardTen1985 02-16-2011 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 753305)
To Honor and Serve isn't owned by Repole.

He is a legend in his own mind.

VOL JACK 02-16-2011 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 753305)
To Honor and Serve isn't owned by Repole.

Oh, I thought Joey black cloud misspelled That's.

gamblin4ever 02-16-2011 11:02 PM

If you wager on these future pools, the value could be Anthony's Cross, Astrology, Machen, and/or Soldat.

A. Cross = if he runs very well 1st or 2nd in the SA Derby
Astrology = if he runs as good as he has when he comes back.
Machen = if he don't run that good this w/e, but stays on the trail and runs
good later on.
Soldat = if he runs very well @ FOY.

I expect the odds to go down the closer we get to the Derby if they run good
later on.

hockey2315 02-16-2011 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamblin4ever (Post 753335)
If you wager on these future pools, the value could be Anthony's Cross, Astrology, Machen, and/or Soldat.

A. Cross = if he runs very well 1st or 2nd in the SA Derby
Astrology = if he runs as good as he has when he comes back.
Machen = if he don't run that good this w/e, but stays on the trail and runs
good later on.
Soldat = if he runs very well @ FOY.

I expect the odds to go down the closer we get to the Derby if they run good
later on.

I wouldn't touch any of these at 40-1 or less. I'd need 100-1 on Astrology.

lemoncrush 02-17-2011 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 753336)
I wouldn't touch any of these at 40-1 or less. I'd need 100-1 on Astrology.

I think the ALL OTHERS pool would look a lot better if the Southwest ran on Saturday instead of Monday. At least that way, you could see if someone like Elite Alex, Arch Arch Arch or Alternation has any kind of potential.

Regardless, if I wanted to throw $20 down on the FIELD at probable odds of 2-1, I would just pick up a form and bet a race that's going off in 5 minutes, rather than 85 days from now.

RockHardTen1985 02-17-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 753336)
I wouldn't touch any of these at 40-1 or less. I'd need 100-1 on Astrology.

I would take him over Anthonys Cross.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-19-2011 07:36 AM

Like the 2 War Front horses. Won't play this bet though. Didn't like either winner of the last 2 Derbies. So, why play this?


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:04 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.