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NTamm1215 08-05-2010 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 678860)
On this track? Surely you jest. How many off the pace, outside winners have there been so far?
My comment dealt more with figuring out who the speed of the speed is in this field and then betting that horse. It's far from an easy task.

NT

RockHardTen1985 08-05-2010 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 678847)
There's really no way Nonna Mia outruns Stormandaprayer to the first quarter, and so far NM has shown absolutely no ability to rate. I think she's a terrible bet at 2-1. Even though the race sets up for Funny Feeling, she had no excuse in the Prioress so she's hard to take at 5-2. Zermatt beat a terrible MSW field last time out and also isn't guaranteed to rate. How anybody can eliminate LBT is beyond me.
I think NM clears.

the_fat_man 08-05-2010 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 678863)
My comment dealt more with figuring out who the speed of the speed is in this field and then betting that horse. It's far from an easy task.

NT
Songandaprayer should have the lead early.

ateamstupid 08-05-2010 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 678868)
I think NM clears.
Based on what? Stormandaprayer is significantly faster than her early.

hockey2315 08-05-2010 10:25 PM
There's a 0% chance that Nonna Mia can beat the 1 to the lead. . . She has an incredible amount of speed. The only horse close to capable of running with her early is the 6, who has no chance to get to her from that post.

johnny pinwheel 08-06-2010 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 678873)
Songandaprayer should have the lead early.
i agree, and if the track plays like it has, 5-1 will be a good risk on this horse.

ateamstupid 08-06-2010 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 678832)
Then this should really set her up, SHE HAS 0% CHANCE TO WIN THIS RACE. She is a lot more likely to run 5th or last.
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 678842)
I think Nonna Mia will be the speed of the speed and I think Zermatt will rate.
You're the best.

Scav 08-06-2010 01:09 PM
What a great story. Now sell her :)

randallscott35 08-06-2010 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 679026)
You're the best.
He's so bad it hurts.

Coach Pants 08-06-2010 01:20 PM
I need to check these threads before betting.

randallscott35 08-06-2010 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 679028)
What a great story. Now sell her :)
why so someone like Pletcher can train her?

smuthg 08-06-2010 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 679028)
What a great story. Now sell her :)
I found these two paragraphs from the NY Times article amusing:

Hunt agreed and Snyder’s one-horse stable was back in business. But his filly still needed a name. He came up with Lisa’s Booby Trap, named in part after his wife and in part after a strip club in Florida he admits he likes to frequent.

Working with Lisa’s Booby Trap, Snyder figured out that the reason she was having so many problems was because of her feet. Not only was one a clubfoot, but another was inordinately flat, which caused her every movement to be awkward. Snyder experimented with different shoes and found a combination that solved the problem.

Coach Pants 08-06-2010 01:29 PM
I wonder if the bleeding heart club will still find it a heartwarming story now and not one coming from a complete whackjob.

So now we have a reincarnated wife that's a horse with a name partly due to a strip club. If I didn't know any better I'd wager that he's in the Tea Party.

Scav 08-06-2010 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 679041)
why so someone like Pletcher can train her?
He supposedly had a 500k offer on the horse, if it is real money, and actually a real offer, he needs to sell that horse to help set him up for his future.

Unless the guy is a multi millionaire, which I doubt since he didn't have the full $5k to pay for the horse, this is a no brainer now.

I completely understand why he didn't do it before, but they are like tomatos, they eventually go bad

Coach Pants 08-06-2010 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 679048)
He supposedly had a 500k offer on the horse, if it is real money, and actually a real offer, he needs to sell that horse to help set him up for his future.

Unless the guy is a multi millionaire, which I doubt since he didn't have the full $5k to pay for the horse, this is a no brainer now.

I completely understand why he didn't do it before, but they are like tomatos, they eventually go bad
Well the horse is his wife so she probably has the final say on being sold. Just depends if she was faithful to him in human form.

ateamstupid 08-06-2010 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 679046)
I wonder if the bleeding heart club will still find it a heartwarming story now and not one coming from a complete whackjob.

So now we have a reincarnated wife that's a horse with a name partly due to a strip club. If I didn't know any better I'd wager that he's in the Tea Party.
Mista Sunshine. Even if he is a weirdo, it's still a cool story/horse.

Coach Pants 08-06-2010 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 679052)
Mista Sunshine. Even if he is a weirdo, it's still a cool story/horse.
I'm holding out support for the future reincarnation of Christopher Hitchens. He'll smoke Booby Trap and drink a handle of Old Charter when he's done.

Danzig 08-06-2010 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 679054)
I'm holding out support for the future reincarnation of Christopher Hitchens. He'll smoke Booby Trap and drink a handle of Old Charter when he's done.
:tro:

randallscott35 08-06-2010 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 679048)
He supposedly had a 500k offer on the horse, if it is real money, and actually a real offer, he needs to sell that horse to help set him up for his future.

Unless the guy is a multi millionaire, which I doubt since he didn't have the full $5k to pay for the horse, this is a no brainer now.

I completely understand why he didn't do it before, but they are like tomatos, they eventually go bad
Thomas, have you seen this dude? He has a foot in the grave already. All the money in the world won't change that. I hope he just keeps her.


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