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ateamstupid 02-27-2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Sounds good to me. You don't think the bounce theorists will be throwing their money around against him?

They might, but like you said, he could regress and still win. I think that'll temper the enthusiasm to bet against him.

Bobby Fischer 02-27-2009 10:43 AM

Pete!
 
Canadian -
Pete Anderson trying to psyche out the competition:
"If he wins, great, but to me this is like a mile workout for Dubai, and it will also give me an insight into his propensity to run on grass later in the year. But watch and see, this will be a screwed-up race because except for one horse, Hey Byrn, there isn't any speed in the field."

Bujagali , and Buddy's Humor with their outside posts may have to be used early here as well.

justindew 02-27-2009 11:00 AM

I think we'll see something like this:

This Ones For Phil (7-2)
Taqarub (6-1)
Beethoven (12-1)
Capt. Candyman Can (5-2)
Notonthesamepage (6-1)
Theregoesjojo (7-1)
Quality Road (a surprisinly-low 5-1)
Break Water Edison (15-1)

miraja2 02-27-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I doubt it. I can't see him higher than 7/2. Who's going to take significantly more money? Maybe Notonthesamepage ends up a slight favorite, but bettors won't let TOFP get away again. He's the horse to beat of course, but this is a murderous field, so I can't take anyone at less than 4-1.

You're right. This race is better than almost all of the BC races last year. I honestly can't remember a Graded Stakes race as interesting as this one in quite some time.

-BT- 02-27-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Theregoesjojo :D


i was thinking the same thing. 15-1ML and they have Quality Road @ 8-1ML, im confussed. This Ones for Phil being 3-1 is pretty commical to me as well. IMO Taqarub is gonna have a pretty big chink of change bet on him, the sheiks are always well represented at the windows for big races like this

-bt-

CSC 02-28-2009 09:55 AM

The FOY a great betting opportunity for Theregoesjojo, he's going to be a great price today and with the added furlong he looks too tempting to pass up. I'm quite bullish on him today.

Travis Stone 02-28-2009 10:29 AM

If they don't post a 22-change quarter I'll be quite surprised.

Bobby Fischer 02-28-2009 10:43 AM

my guess at the off odds=

TOFP - 7-2
Candyman- 7-2
Jojo- 5-1
NOTSP- 5-1
Taqarub- 7-1

Scurlogue Champ 02-28-2009 10:52 AM

I think This One's For Phil goes off at 9/5 or 2/1.

Bobby Fischer 02-28-2009 10:59 AM

im hoping i can get the improving son of Candy Ride 3rd on my trifecta ticket...

































Jack Spratt

TitanSooner 02-28-2009 04:15 PM

Quality Road looks great on the track

eajinabi 02-28-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner
Quality Road looks great on the track

Looks great in the winner circle too.

ateamstupid 02-28-2009 04:22 PM

Of course Theregoesjojo runs huge, but one of the few horses I didn't use runs huger. Ugh.

-BT- 02-28-2009 04:34 PM

operation i just learned NOTHING from this prep race is in full effect


-bt-

The Indomitable DrugS 02-28-2009 04:53 PM

Look for another blockbuster speed figure anyway. The race went 3.35 seconds faster than the other mile race on the card.

FreddyMo and the track super he is paying off to quicken the track strike again.

the_fat_man 02-28-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Look for another blockbuster speed figure anyway. The race went 3.35 seconds faster than the other mile race on the card.

FreddyMo and the track super he is paying off to quicken the track strike again.


Ummmmm

They're only 'blockbuster' if the horses run back to them. :rolleyes:

I find it all comical after all the posts (here and elsewhere) about the high numbers a couple of the horses in the race had turned in last out.

And here I am thinking that JUICE was supposed to be consistent.:rolleyes:

CSC 02-28-2009 05:15 PM

Obvious question is who looks better in the Florida Derby assuming that the first 2 finishers go to the Florida Derby.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-28-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
And here I am thinking that JUICE was supposed to be consistent.:rolleyes:

Whoever said anything about juice?

A suspected "juiced" horse is technically supposed to explode in one race or sometimes two or three races and just fall apart at the seems totally there after.

The crazy thing about these super trainers - is that they seem to have alchemistic powers and get these huge move-ups and keep horses going strong for many races and sometimes through long (albeit well spaced) campaigns. Dutrow is no doubt one of them.

If you're curious as to how I bet this specific race .. I did bet the big figure horses. Go ahead and mock me about it all you want if it makes you feel any better.

ateamstupid 02-28-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Obvious question is who looks better in the Florida Derby assuming that the first 2 finishers go to the Florida Derby.

Quality Road. He showed a new gear today, rated close to a fast pace and drew away convincingly. Theregoesjojo looks like a really nice horse, but thus far he's yet to show enough early speed to be a good bet in the Florida Derby at probably shorter odds than today.

the_fat_man 02-28-2009 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If you're curious as to how I bet this specific race .. I did bet the big figure horses. Go ahead and mock me about it all you want if it makes you feel any better.

How does that make me feel better? The big figure horses also happened to be the 'wipe-out' winners, so don't think that I wasn't, almost, right behind you. I bet Beethoven and still couldn't get it done. Tell you who really had balls: those taking 5:1 on the winner.


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