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brianwspencer 07-21-2008 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
I have no idea why the 1 is at 5-2. That horse has been the most overrated horse at AP the last couple years. M/L's always 10X lower than it should be and it almost never wins.

Horse I'd say you'll have to watch out for is the 4, not the 3.

Not in DT yet (hope to be someday), but think I can clear out Thurs to go over and meet up with anyone going.

I don't have the PPs right in front of me, but I looked at that race with specific regard to the ML when it drew on Saturday. Doesn't the horse usually take a decent bit of money, and still look logical on paper, all things considered?

I would be surprised if anyone got better than 4-1, maybe 9-2, and I assume most of the off odds will be slightly higher than the ML, as I find it hard to believe the Calabrese actually goes off at 9-5.

jwkniska 07-21-2008 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
I don't have the PPs right in front of me, but I looked at that race with specific regard to the ML when it drew on Saturday. Doesn't the horse usually take a decent bit of money, and still look logical on paper, all things considered?

I would be surprised if anyone got better than 4-1, maybe 9-2, and I assume most of the off odds will be slightly higher than the ML, as I find it hard to believe the Calabrese actually goes off at 9-5.

I was thinking along the same lines. I don't have the PP's in front of me yet either, just going from memory. Fav goes off about 3-1 was my first thought and if my memory's right (which it is 99% of the time), I think that the 4 is the horse to beat, not the FCC one. That #1 horse always takes some $$ (think part due to the low ML). I never liked that horse when first came here from CA and it's proved me right almost everytime it ran, overrated.
If the 'toga bunch bets on KNS, she may even be the post time fav.

See you Thurs!

John

AeWingnut 07-21-2008 12:15 PM

I plan on being there.

work is pressing hard right now

brianwspencer 07-21-2008 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
See you Thurs!

It's hilarious that her races keep falling on days I have off one way or another. Alternate holiday got me out there on July 3, and I have minor dental surgery Thursday morning so I took the day off and barring any unforseen massive pain in my mouth, will be out there that afternoon.

miraja2 07-21-2008 04:16 PM

For the first time in all of DeeTee's races at AP....I'll be there.

brianwspencer 07-21-2008 04:53 PM

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For the first time in all of DeeTee's races at AP....I'll be there.

YES!

Danzig 07-21-2008 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
It's hilarious that her races keep falling on days I have off one way or another. Alternate holiday got me out there on July 3, and I have minor dental surgery Thursday morning so I took the day off and barring any unforseen massive pain in my mouth, will be out there that afternoon.

i have some hydrocodone around here somewhere....

cancel the dentist!! see you thursday i hope.

brianwspencer 07-21-2008 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i have some hydrocodone around here somewhere....

cancel the dentist!! see you thursday i hope.

Oh don't worry, they'll give me pills. I'll be out there cuz I'll want to get some work done before the race anyway.

It'll just mean no beer for me if I'm in pain and eating pills.

Or on that note, maybe all the better reason to have a beer :)

I'll be out one way or another though.

Danzig 07-21-2008 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Oh don't worry, they'll give me pills. I'll be out there cuz I'll want to get some work done before the race anyway.

It'll just mean no beer for me if I'm in pain and eating pills.

Or on that note, maybe all the better reason to have a beer :)

I'll be out one way or another though.

maybe they'll be plenty of us around to keep an eye on you at the track.

hell, i drank the other day ( a few) with a muscle relaxant. no permanent damage. but man i slept GREAT that night! :D

Danzig 07-21-2008 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
I plan on being there.

work is pressing hard right now


it'll still be there when you get back. hope to see ya thursday!

Danzig 07-21-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill
Who are you pitching the Movie Deal to ? :D


excellent idea!

SuffolkGirl 07-21-2008 07:59 PM

Danzig - I look forward to meeting you at last! Have a safe trip

Danzig 07-21-2008 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SuffolkGirl
Danzig - I look forward to meeting you at last! Have a safe trip

thanks! i'm looking forward to meeting you and hopefully a bunch of others. wonder if dell and satan's twin will be there.

GPK 07-21-2008 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
thanks! i'm looking forward to meeting you and hopefully a bunch of others. wonder if dell and satan's twin will be there.


Deb...I love ya babe...so Im telling you...stay as far away from those two guys as possible.

hoovesupsideyourhead 07-22-2008 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Deb...I love ya babe...so Im telling you...stay as far away from those two guys as possible.

you could do worse...:zz:

miraja2 07-22-2008 01:55 PM

I actually think the #5 (Hayley Go Blue) might be a good value play here. She hasn't done much in recent starts, but 8f on the poly is where she has done her best work in the past. She might be one to include in exotics (underneath KNS obviously).

miraja2 07-22-2008 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
I have no idea why the 1 is at 5-2. That horse has been the most overrated horse at AP the last couple years.

The #1 could be tough, and might wire the field as she did in a similarly paceless race last year at AP. Unfortunately for KNS, there isn't much speed at all, and the #1 might just get loose on a soft pace.

Bigsmc 07-22-2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
you could do worse...:zz:

Scav and GPK?

GPK 07-22-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Scav and GPK?

Danzig loves her some GPK:cool: :{>:

Danzig 07-23-2008 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Danzig loves her some GPK:cool: :{>:

my favorite golfer.

it is 4:17 cst. getting ready to get on the road.


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