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MisterB 05-08-2008 10:37 AM

So Yamamoto has been pointing this horse to the Belmont since his easy maiden win back in Feb. 1 1/8 mile maiden debut win:cool: Since the PP has been the local prep race for the Belmont, he chooses the Jock who just won the No.1 Race in America.

Yea, those Japanese are real stupid people.

:)

cruised 5fl yesterday 59.95.

If he loses to this bunch, he should pack it up and head home.

blackthroatedwind 05-08-2008 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
So Yamamoto has been pointing this horse to the Belmont since his easy maiden win back in Feb. 1 1/8 mile maiden debut win:cool: Since the PP has been the local prep race for the Belmont, he chooses the Jock who just won the No.1 Race in America.

Yea, those Japanese are real stupid people.

:)

cruised 5fl yesterday 59.95.

If he loses to this bunch, he should pack it up and head home.


Exactly.

He will, most likely, lose to this bunch.

Coach Pants 05-08-2008 10:48 AM

Ohhh a five furlong work in 59.95.

Half the field will scratch out of respect for that blazing work.

MisterB 05-08-2008 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Exactly.

He will, most likely, lose to this bunch.

Other than Lieutenant Ron, and maybe Shug's horse, this is not a good field.

If the son of Mineshaft has any guts, he should love the Big Sandy.

Maybe the Japanese are shopping, and boosting our economy with their YEN.

MisterB 05-08-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Ohhh a five furlong work in 59.95.

Half the field will scratch out of respect for that blazing work.


lol

blackthroatedwind 05-08-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
Other than Lieutenant Ron, and maybe Shug's horse, this is not a good field.

If the son of Mineshaft has any guts, he should love the Big Sandy.

Maybe the Japanese are shopping, and boosting our economy with their YEN.


Lieutenant Ron may be VERY good.

Regardless, horses like this have a much better record of being phonies than not. Plus, from a betting standpoint, anytime a horse is bet strongly because of talk, and not performance, you are much better off playing against it.

MisterB 05-08-2008 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Lieutenant Ron may be VERY good.

Regardless, horses like this have a much better record of being phonies than not. Plus, from a betting standpoint, anytime a horse is bet strongly because of talk, and not performance, you are much better off playing against it.

Agreed. Odds are in the favor of the better this race.

Yamamoto may be the Dutrow of Japan.

;)

zippyneedsawin 05-08-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Lieutenant Ron may be VERY good.

Regardless, horses like this have a much better record of being phonies than not. Plus, from a betting standpoint, anytime a horse is bet strongly because of talk, and not performance, you are much better off playing against it.


Are Japanese betting pools part of the NYRA handle? Casino Drive will be 1-20 if that's the case. Remember Deep Impact's odds in the Arc last year? LOL.

blackthroatedwind 05-08-2008 11:06 AM

Lieutenant Ron will NOT be running.

hockey2315 05-08-2008 11:45 AM

That sucks. . .

Linny 05-08-2008 11:58 AM

I understand KD taking the mount of Casino Drive. He's a nice horse in a G2 $200k race. My question is why the connections didn't reach out to someone who would retain the mount for the race that is the ultimate goal.

ALostTexan 05-08-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone
Jeremy Rose had the original mount.

Scarey thing is, they could have stayed with Jeremy Rose and we would be talking about the tragic end of the Kentucky Derby winner right now.

slotdirt 05-08-2008 12:49 PM

I'm a big Jeremy Rose fan, so I also question that statement as borderline ridiculous.

RolloTomasi 05-08-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
Since the PP has been the local prep race for the Belmont, he chooses the Jock who just won the No.1 Race in America.

Yea, those Japanese are real stupid people.

The irony of all this is that Kent D. has to be some sort of laughing stock in Japan via his misjudge of the finish line aboard Kotashaan in the '93 Japan Cup.

Maybe they think lightning can't strike twice.

MisterB 05-08-2008 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
The irony of all this is that Kent D. has to be some sort of laughing stock in Japan via his misjudge of the finish line aboard Kotashaan in the '93 Japan Cup.

Maybe they think lightning can't strike twice.

You don't think KD is a better rider today. He may win the most improved cat.

:)

Cannon Shell 05-08-2008 02:37 PM

Desormeaux rode for a period of time in Japan. Maybe the trainer from there has used him before and values his opinion?

ateamstupid 05-08-2008 02:45 PM

36 posts on a total non-story, non-controversy (37 now). Awesome.

ELA 05-08-2008 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
How come my Kent on Cool Coal Man in the Blue Grass has been ignored?

Oh, I know why, because it completely exposes how stupid this thread is.

Not ignored. More like "put on hold". It's a good idea to deal with only controversial or conspiracy topic at a time. LOL.

Eric

paisjpq 05-09-2008 07:10 AM

Not a bad move by KD to get on his potential competition. The idea that he will get off BB for casino drive in the belmont, is insane.


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