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fpsoxfan 04-27-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
that was the gotham. tale of ekati defeated war pass in the wood.

Yes it was....thanks!

Kasept 04-28-2008 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Right....but that's a sort of " after the fact " kind of thing....as well as obvious.

I think the point being made is that Visionaire may not have been so much as closing in the Blue Grass but not falling apart like many of his rivals in that race. The contention is obviously not that some of the exotic fillers in the Derby will be " passing tired rivals " but that Visionaire only gave the illusion of running OK in the Blue Grass....when in fact he wasn't.

Well, it's not 'ATF' if you offered up Jazil and Steppenwolfer as includes on your ticket... I understand the point that was being addressed re: Visionaire, and was going after a 'baby with the bathwater' thing in terms of structuring Derby plays.


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