[quote=DaHoss9698]adriano was horrible on dirt in the FOY, and that race has came back to be a horrible race QUOTE]

As mentioned from another poster, Adriano came back to win. Also Monba was in the FOY (won the Bluegrass). Other horses that came back and "ran respectively / well" include Golden Spikes (2nd in Hawthorne Stakes), Court Vision (3rd in Wood), Kentucky Bear (3rd in Bluegrass). Thats almost 1/2 the field that came back and hit the board in G1/G2 stakes in their next starts. Not sure how that translates to a horrible race?

Funny how things change in 2 months. The week of the race everyone on this board was amazed at the depth of that field. Now it is a horrible race? I think when you go back and look at that field at the end of the year at least 3/4 of this field will win a graded stakes race this year.

NO WAY 3/4 of the field. But some of them will win graded stakes- not because they're good- but because there's no one else out there to win them.

Someone in the biz told me there were somewhere in the range of 35,000 3 year olds of racing age this year. So there are about 35000 "ones" that can "win them".

Not sure why you would be interested in the game if you think 35,000 3 year olds are "not good".

"Obviously I'm thrilled, not only that Edgar's riding him, but that, in doing so, he's endorsing the horse," Motion said.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/93732.html

So, apparently Motion looks at Prado's choice as an endorsement of the horse. Or is this just trainer-speak? One thing that bothers me greatly about Adriano is Motion's concerns that the horse won't handle the crowd at the Derby.

It's obviously an issue, but where did you see Motion comment on it?

DRF. That's what the link is for.

Read that article again and tell me if you see a quote on the subject.

I'm sorry, you meant the comment on the horse not handling the crowd. Motion said it while he was on ATR.

Thanks. Any idea what day?

Not really, just that he's concerned about the horse handling the crowd. Steve commented on Motion's comment in this thread.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...534#post345534

Where does that leave Eight Belles? Porter I guess confirmed that he was going to enter both races and decide which one he is running in after the derby draw. If they like the draw they run her on Saturday, if not they run her on Friday. But they released Dominguez for the Derby but he is committed to her in the Oaks. I know it's legal but if he enters and scratches in the Derby because of the post position, it would even sink him to an all new low imo........now with that said, I still think she may be the best 3 year old out there.......

How many of those 35,000 make it to the track? Out of the ones that do, how many break their maidens? How many actually make it to graded stakes? How many actually win graded stakes? Personally I don't care how good they are.

Just because this year's talent is down doesn't mean I can't enjoy the racing and more importantly it doesn't mean I can't generate opinions on which ones are a little less bad than the rest so that I can bet them.

hockey... you are the man around here... go to selections check out my big a picks for tomorrow

Thanks but I'm far from the man around here. . .