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Coach Pants 04-13-2008 07:04 PM

I'd like to see Denis get 21st.

hockey2315 04-13-2008 07:09 PM

You don't think he has any shot so wouldn't you want him to get in?

SOREHOOF 04-13-2008 07:26 PM

I'd love to see her in! She would have as good of a shot as most of these

lemoncrush 04-13-2008 07:29 PM

I would prefer a new system to decide who gets in as well, although I don't really know what would be fair.
Perhaps graded earnings in races a mile or longer. That would take out the winners of those early 2-yo stakes races.
And then maybe...the top 10 are determined by graded earnings, and after that there's some kind of point system, selection committee, etc..
Who knows.

hockey2315 04-13-2008 07:33 PM

I say 3 year old graded earnings should be worth twice as much as two year old. . . First 15 get in that way. . . Then a "promoter's option" for the last five where a panel of experts chooses. . .

SOREHOOF 04-13-2008 07:37 PM

I think it should go by grade. The 2yo stakes should be just as important. I like 2yo races it gets me going for the Derby all summer long.

SOREHOOF 04-13-2008 07:42 PM

I don't see the Delta Jackpot being worth as much as the BCJuv. Or more than the Wood for that matter.

hockey2315 04-13-2008 07:43 PM

The Delta Jackpot should lose its grade

SOREHOOF 04-13-2008 07:49 PM

I love seeing the big purses, I just don't think it should be a free pass to the Derby. A good 2yo season should be a factor.

hi_im_god 04-13-2008 08:14 PM

name a good horse that will miss the entry gate this year because they lack graded earnings.

let's be sure there's a problem before we replace an easily understood straight forward qualifying system with some rube goldberg contraption.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-13-2008 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
Just read that the owner of Eight Bells is considering entering her for the Derby. At this point, my $$'s on her.

God, I hope not! :mad: got her @ 22-1 in the Oaks future (pool #1) would be a great score the day before the Derby at those odds.

SOREHOOF 04-13-2008 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
name a good horse that will miss the entry gate this year because they lack graded earnings.

let's be sure there's a problem before we replace an easily understood straight forward qualifying system with some rube goldberg contraption.

The rules are the rules. Everyone knows them and everyone lives by them. Who gets in gets in. The current system is Rube Goldberg for dummies.

Scav 04-14-2008 04:36 PM

Steve, Anak Nakal is a GO for the Derby per the DRF article on their front page.

Scav 04-14-2008 05:00 PM

1 War Pass Nick Zito $1,470,000
2 Pyro Steve Asmussen $1,020,000
3 Tale of Ekati Barclay Tagg $738,000
4 Colonel John Eoin Harty $720,000
5 Gayego Paulo Lobo $640,000
6 Big Brown Richard Dutrow $600,000
7 Z Humor Bill Mott $579,000
8 Monba Todd Pletcher $500,000
9 Court Vision Bill Mott $331,872
10 Z Fortune Steve Asmussen $329,000
11 Adriano Graham Motion $310,000
12 Recapturetheglory $300,000
13 Smooth Air Benny Stutts $290,000
14 Cool Coal Man Nick Zito $212,767
15 Anak Nakal Nick Zito $212,216
16 Eight Belles Larry Jones $210,000
17 Cowboy Cal Todd Pletcher $207,660
18 Visionaire Michael Matz $202,500
19 Big Truck Barclay Tagg $194,500
20 Bob Black Jack James Kasparoff $180,000

Denis of Cork David Carroll $165,000
Halo Najib Dale Romans $157,996
Tomcito Dante Zanelli $151,292 *** (LEX)
Atoned Todd Pletcher $140,000 *** (Lex)


So this is the prospected field, with the Lexington possibly causing Bob's Blackjack and Big Truck to get excluded, IF Tomcito/Atoned run 1-2

Kasept 04-14-2008 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
So this is the prospected field, with the Lexington possibly causing Bob's Blackjack and Big Truck to get excluded, IF Tomcito/Atoned run 1-2

They can finish:

1. Behindatthebar/Racecar/etc..
2. Atoned
3. Tomcito

and the Visionaire would be in trouble too..

Kasept 04-14-2008 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Steve, Anak Nakal is a GO for the Derby per the DRF article on their front page.

Pretty sad..

Scav 04-14-2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Pretty sad..

I don't know, he seems to be improving I guess, PLUS I have a future wager on him :)

Coach Pants 04-14-2008 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315
You don't think he has any shot so wouldn't you want him to get in?

I'd rather see the connections suffer so we can get more apology letters.

Scav 04-14-2008 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Improving?

I know, it is a reach,but at least I have a 5% natural odds chance of cashing :)


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