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JJP 04-04-2008 09:09 PM

The Excelsior looks very weak.....looks like another race that deserves a downgrade.

pgardn 04-04-2008 09:18 PM

How is it that Tale of Ekati is the morning line
2nd choice in the Wood?
Does anyone really expect this much improvement?
I know his first time back was a Pyro moment but what the heck?

I dont take much stock in these.
But someone has respect...
Why is this warrented?

jcs11204 04-04-2008 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
The Excelsior looks very weak.....looks like another race that deserves a downgrade.

i think your wrong. its a nice group of heavy hitters, with a up and comer who could be special

geeker2 04-04-2008 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
whos runs with war pass early ? i want to try to beat him, i like giant moon, roman emperor, and a few others, but does it even matter ? if no one runs with war pass early, can he be defeated ?

Chop Chop to the front!

jcs11204 04-04-2008 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
Chop Chop to the front!

i was thinking that myself, but if he does that, hes done after a half

jcs11204 04-04-2008 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Heavy hitters? And who is the up and comer, Wafi City? You have got to be kidding.

ok slick, off of his last why not ? marina market came back to win, and wafi's last number was big.

NTamm1215 04-04-2008 11:41 PM

Personally I think Wafi City is highly unlikely to run even close to the number he did last time. He was the beneficiary of a perfect trip and considering he's a horse that has been unable to run three races without a layoff, I think the chances of him matching that effort are minimal. He will have to be sent very hard from the outside unless Cornelio is interested in going wide. It's also worth noting that Alan Garcia has chosen to ride Angliana.

If you're shopping for a longshot or even a mid-range price I think there are other places to go, especially with two very vulnerable favorites in Magna Grad and Nite Light.

NT

jcs11204 04-04-2008 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Personally I think Wafi City is highly unlikely to run even close to the number he did last time. He was the beneficiary of a perfect trip and considering he's a horse that has been unable to run three races without a layoff, I think the chances of him matching that effort are minimal. He will have to be sent very hard from the outside unless Cornelio is interested in going wide. It's also worth noting that Alan Garcia has chosen to ride Angliana.

If you're shopping for a longshot or even a mid-range price I think there are other places to go, especially with two very vulnerable favorites in Magna Grad and Nite Light.

NT

i never said i like wafi, i just said he could be a up and comer...
i will be using Angliana as my key choice and possibly throwing in 2-3 more for the pick 4, Angliana is super tactical, can sit close early or come from way out of it, if the pace is hot. i feel he's the most likely winner. he should be all of his morning line, with 2 pletchers and wafi

jcs11204 04-04-2008 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Is this the thanks I get for trying to talk you off your new Derby horse Prussian?

His last race was impressive visually and it was fast. Now, the second place finisher was a bomb who isn't much and Wisp, who ran third is no win machine. I'm just not too excited about betting him at what will probably be around 2-1, especially with the quick run to the turn. He could definitely win, but he's not special IMO and this is not a field of heavy hitters.

i never said i liked him, and yes you did try talking me off prussian

i lost 32 dollers today a pick 3 and pick 4 for 16 each.... which i would not have hit either even if prussian did win

JJP 04-04-2008 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i think your wrong. its a nice group of heavy hitters, with a up and comer who could be special

I've seen classified allowance races that were stronger than this phony Grade 3.

The Bid 04-04-2008 11:51 PM

Almost any horse you back goes up in flames like a defective firecracker

jcs11204 04-04-2008 11:51 PM

whatever, its a competitive group, nice betting race, you can catch a nice price and still make money in the pick 4 with war pass keyed

jcs11204 04-04-2008 11:52 PM

even though im leaning towards keying court vision

The Bid 04-04-2008 11:54 PM

Its a relief to know you like that crow, now I know Im still live

jcs11204 04-04-2008 11:55 PM

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Its a relief to know you like that crow, now I know Im still live

why are you mean to me ?

The Bid 04-04-2008 11:57 PM

Im not, Im not trying to be mean. Ive seen you stop too many for it to be a random. You need to take a bottle of holywater to the track with you

jcs11204 04-04-2008 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Im not, Im not trying to be mean. Ive seen you stop too many for it to be a random. You need to take a bottle of holywater to the track with you

thats really not true, i do decent for the amount i bet which is not a lot
but i have been cold latley... last month has been hard


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