I'ts only going to get better when the slot money starts rolling in.

Funny Pgiaco, i have a Freud weanling and the mare has a Hook in her belly ready to drop...

You are a super owner and as always, thank you for a dialogue. Catienus is rock solid, Hook And Ladder is out of the gates fast as a sire, and Desert Warrior has put up some impressive numbers early. I do believe NY has never had a deeper sire corps than now.

Will your Teuflesberg, one of this board's most popular 3 year olds of last year, be a NY bred ?

The roster in NY keeps improving. Some nice horses have been lost to sale, transfer or death over the last decade or so but new young stallions have taken up residence.
Hook and Ladder is off to a great start but like Precise End a few years ago, a great start often fortells a rapid sale and transfer out of NY. I thought that stallions like Precise End and City Zip could have been very important tallions had they stayed in NY. It's typical of the market though that (like a racehorse) a hot young sire is a volatile commodity and owners need to sell when they can.
Belong To Me has been only a modest success since leaving NY. I'd have liked to have seen CZ and PE stick around.

Yes, the Teuflesberg-True Advantage foal will be a NY bred, also toying with the idea of sending a With Approval mare to him.
I agree that the NY stallion roster is getting deeper, but the loss of Catienus to KY hurts. Utopia and the rest of the new stallions have big shoes to fill.

Super owner?!? I might have to print that and hang it on the refrigerator. Thanks Sumitas.

It is going to be hard to attract top stallion prospects to NY simply because the majority of 'real NYbred mares' owners arent willing to pay high stud fees. A vast majority of the KY sired NYbreds arent resident NY mares, just people playing the system. State bred programs are great for smaller owners in many ways but in some ways do not give great incentive for mare owners to upgrade their quality. I have asked a number of top stud farms in KY why they dont set up smaller operations in NY and they all pretty much thought that the majority of breeders wont support a $15000 and up stallion. Maybe they are not correct but it seems odd that no one is really trying especially in light of the slot money that is looming.

And of course a 'Super Owner' can only utilize a 'Super Trainer'... And luckily... One returns Thursday!!

He's slimmer, trimmer, leaner, meaner.. Tanned and taught.. Fit and ready..

SCIACCA.. He's back!

"And this time it's personal..."

YAYYY...how about a swim shoot shot for the ladies :D

http://growabrain.typepad.com/photos...u_ferrigno.jpg

Hysterical. You know, Ferrigno, from the neck up, actually DOES resemble Sciacca!

yeah he does!! LOL

Ferrigno has a LOT more hair.

Cannon, I guess the farms in KY would know better, but I know several NY breeders who would support a higher end stallion or 2 in NY, especially with the looming slot money. By the time you ship a mare and pay KY sales tax on the season the cost becomes quite prohibitive. I for one would definitely support an upper end stallion that stood here.

I know several people that would and some of the lesser KY stallions would be great fits in NY. Louisiana is another state that needs stallion support especially considering their breedback rules are very rigid. They have a great program but the stallions are horrible.

Breedback rules?

You need to get a second date before you understand

I am literally speechless right now, all my comebacks that I have typed don't do your response its worthyness....

This is enough...

it doesn't happen very often so enjoy it

NY Bred Sires
 

It also seems that whenever a NY Bred sire gets good that they are subject to be moved to Kentucky (or elsewhere) and then have their stud fee raised. City Zip is a prime example of this in the past couple of years.

Also, am i correct that the majority of those who breed to a stallion in NY generally do not pay full stated stud fees but work out a deal????

PSH