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SentToStud 03-02-2008 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jpops757
Regardless of anyones opinion, he has earned his way to "THE DERBY TRAIL".

That's very true. If all's well, he's at least one of the favorites for the Florida Derby.

Personally, I have a lot of horses to root for as I made a field bet in pool 1.

I'd love to see Plesa have a Derby runner. Hopefully he keeps the colt but who knows.

To me, it's still very early. And to me the Risen Star was oddly run. Can't knock the winner but that race doesn't often turn out especially important.

NTamm1215 03-02-2008 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
As for the Risen Star field comparison, I don't think Z Fortune would've been on the board in this GP race today.

So what is wrong with how Hey Byrn looked? Performance on the track is the only thing that counts.

I can't imagine who you found to be so tough in that allowance race to consider it better than the Risen Star also-rans. Sleuse? Bordeaux Bandit? Alaazo?

Don't get me wrong, Hey Byrn ran a nice race and looked good doing it but count me among those who wants me to see him beat a horse not named Bordeaux Bandit.

The Risen Star field might not have been great but it is not even comparable to that allowance field today. Hell, Blackberry Road and/or Visionaire would have been heavily bet in Gulfstream's 3rd today and Z Fortune would have probably been 3-5.

NT

Travis Stone 03-02-2008 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
As for the Risen Star field comparison, I don't think Z Fortune would've been on the board in this GP race today.

Why is everyone so hellbent on bashing the Risen Star?

cmorioles 03-02-2008 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Why is everyone so hellbent on bashing the Risen Star?

Mostly because it was run like a tractor pull.

Monarchos1 03-02-2008 09:54 PM

Hey Byrn is named for the owner's late hubby and she certainly doesn't need the money. I doubt this one is for sale, though there have been and will be more offers.

Travis Stone 03-02-2008 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
Mostly because it was run like a tractor pull.

Do you expect horses to run their lifetime fastest race every time they step foot on a track, even if they haven't started in four months?

Travis Stone 03-02-2008 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Monarchos1
I doubt this one is for sale, though there have been and will be more offers.

I put in an offer myself... waiting to hear back.

The Bid 03-02-2008 10:01 PM

The race was pretty slow. The majority of that field wanted no part of that distance. Im not real excited about anything in there

cmorioles 03-02-2008 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Do you expect horses to run their lifetime fastest race every time they step foot on a track, even if they haven't started in four months?

I wasn't passing judgment on the horses, just saying that is what most people think. The race was, however, run with an ABSURDLY slow pace and it would be hard for me to get overly excited about anyone in there save the winner.

Barring injury or something fluky, how is any horse from that race ever going to beat Pyro? They basically ran a quarterhorse race in which Pyro spotted them eight lengths and beat them by open lengths.

jpops757 03-03-2008 12:34 AM

Im not trying to bad mouth any of the preps but I dont think the derby winner has lost a race this year, with the only possible exception The bad cat.

Pedigree Ann 03-03-2008 02:53 AM

Are you seriously considering this horse could be a factor in the Derby? Sireside is sprinter/miler - Put it Back, Honour and Glory, Exuberant. Damsire Skip Trial could stay, but the female family is sprinter/miler oriented as well. Staying bloodlines often produce sprinters due to regression to the mean, but sprinting bloodlines very rarely produce stayers.

NoLuvForPletch 03-03-2008 07:30 AM

As I said 3 weeks ago, when I initially brought this colt up, it is hard to imagine a world where Put It Back's get a mile and a quarter, but I guess anything can happen.

What I am most impressed with is in a day and age where a race like this guy ran on Feb 10 would knock a colt "for a loop" this one comes right back 3 weeks later with another show.

Plesa said after his last race that he didn't think this one would be for sale. I hope she doesn't sell, but I guess we'll see.

SniperSB23 03-03-2008 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Are you seriously considering this horse could be a factor in the Derby? Sireside is sprinter/miler - Put it Back, Honour and Glory, Exuberant. Damsire Skip Trial could stay, but the female family is sprinter/miler oriented as well. Staying bloodlines often produce sprinters due to regression to the mean, but sprinting bloodlines very rarely produce stayers.

He's running 9 furlongs already, you can throw pedigree out the window.

blackthroatedwind 03-03-2008 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
He's running 9 furlongs already, you can throw pedigree out the window.


That post was enough to make me root for him.

sumitas 03-03-2008 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Are you seriously considering this horse could be a factor in the Derby? Sireside is sprinter/miler - Put it Back, Honour and Glory, Exuberant. Damsire Skip Trial could stay, but the female family is sprinter/miler oriented as well. Staying bloodlines often produce sprinters due to regression to the mean, but sprinting bloodlines very rarely produce stayers.

His 2nd dam Stormy Divorce (Storm Bird - sire of Storm Cat) did produce False Promises who won the G3 Hawthorne Derby @ 9F. There is a lot of speed in the family but the conduit mare profile shows more of a speed/stamina balance.

Agreed, one does not get a warm fuzzy stamina feeling from his pedigree. But he is a 5 gen outcross with a 3.00 DI so we'll have to watch him on the track.

The Indomitable DrugS 03-03-2008 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Monarchos1
Hey Byrn is named for the owner's late hubby

I think the name "Don't Touch Me There" was under strong consideration ... but she ultimately decided to go with Hey Byrn instead for her #69th ranked son of Put It Back out of Restraining Order.

NoLuvForPletch 05-07-2008 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I think the name "Don't Touch Me There" was under strong consideration ... but she ultimately decided to go with Hey Byrn instead for her #69th ranked son of Put It Back out of Restraining Order.

So the #4 ranked son of Put it Back out of Restraining Order worked a Mile at Calder on Monday. Anyone have a clue as to where this animal is being pointed?


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