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Cannon Shell 01-17-2008 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Probably the greatest college basketball coach to ever draw a breath. Mackey was great for Cleveland State before he got caught freebasing

Maybe 3rd. Number 1 is obviously John Wooden. Number 2 is Coach K. BK probably 3rd. Mackey got all the talent out of Mouse McFadden that he could

The Indomitable DrugS 01-17-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Probably the greatest college basketball coach to ever draw a breath.

That's my opinion of John Chaney......

He was 3-0 ATS when I bet his teams at Temple.

The Bid 01-18-2008 08:16 AM

I would think the samething in that case TID

Mackey was about to lead CSU to the promise land, he did squeeze the mouse for all he had

SCUDSBROTHER 01-18-2008 10:23 AM

If he is such a talented individual,then why does he coach in a West Texas Cow Town? Well, it's because no program with top athletes wants him around,because he acts like an angry child (way too often.) What's that make him? A talented jerk,and that is soooo sooo common.He made a good living in his profession,but when ya really look at it he's where he belongs(in West Texas huntin' n' fishin' with various white trash.) Can't even keep from getting in arguments with them,either.

ddthetide 01-18-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Dean Smith...the man who did less with more than any coach in history...Took MJ and three other NBA all stars to get him a ring...

alot of coach smith teams were wrecked by guys leaving early, clear back to bob mcadoo. also some of his best teams were back when the tourny. was only 16 teams and only 1 team from the acc got in. that's the acc tourny. winner.

pgardn 01-18-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Maybe 3rd. Number 1 is obviously John Wooden. Number 2 is Coach K. BK probably 3rd. Mackey got all the talent out of Mouse McFadden that he could

Sorta like saying Red Auerbach was the greatest. What about 8 teams in the league?, and Red had the best players so he won every year. UCLA had the best players all the time.

Bill Walton said Wooden taught him about life. Enough said. That drops him out of the top 10 automatically.

2MinsToPost 01-18-2008 06:43 PM

I have lived part of my life in Indiana, both Evansville and Indianapolis. I have spent time in and around IU. The more you get to know and talk to the old time locals down their the more stories you here about how Coach Knight did this for this guy, gave this business this, helped out this guy etc etc WITHOUT the media ever knowing, the way he wanted it. He has more friends then enemies and I would wager a years salary that at least 75% of his former players upon graduation and when they go into the real world look back and thank Coach Knight for teaching and leading them to be men. Does he have a bad temper, yeah. Is he a good hearted man you bet.

Cannon Shell 01-18-2008 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
alot of coach smith teams were wrecked by guys leaving early, clear back to bob mcadoo. also some of his best teams were back when the tourny. was only 16 teams and only 1 team from the acc got in. that's the acc tourny. winner.

That is simply not true. He coached in the era of players staying 4 years until the end of his career when he had the most success. He was an underachiever as a coach though he was a great recruiter and ran a great program. Coach Wooden seemed to do ok under the smaller tourney format.

Cannon Shell 01-18-2008 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Sorta like saying Red Auerbach was the greatest. What about 8 teams in the league?, and Red had the best players so he won every year. UCLA had the best players all the time.

Bill Walton said Wooden taught him about life. Enough said. That drops him out of the top 10 automatically.

Well dont you think there is a reason he has the top players? Wooden isn't even in the equation he is so far ahead of the pack. And who had better players than Dean Smith? He had the best players and didn't win all the time. Red Auerbach was so far ahead of everybody he shouldnt really count either.

pgardn 01-18-2008 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Well dont you think there is a reason he has the top players? Wooden isn't even in the equation he is so far ahead of the pack. And who had better players than Dean Smith? He had the best players and didn't win all the time. Red Auerbach was so far ahead of everybody he shouldnt really count either.

Nah Im sure there were other coaches when the rims were apple baskets that did as well as Red and Wooden.

Cannon Shell 01-18-2008 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Nah Im sure there were other coaches when the rims were apple baskets that did as well as Red and Wooden.

Isiah?

skippy3481 01-18-2008 10:26 PM

Go back at the last undefeated team and tell me who was on it and who coached it. Lot of superstars on that roster.....

pgardn 01-18-2008 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481
Go back at the last undefeated team and tell me who was on it and who coached it. Lot of superstars on that roster.....

Yep.
That is why its so sad
to look at the present.
Gets no players anymore.
They dont enjoy the choke holds.

pgardn 01-18-2008 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Isiah?

He would probably thinks he was.
Either Isiah is one of the toughest
minded coaches of all time, or he
just does not have turmoil glasses.
I cant see how he stays on.

If he gets the Knicks to .500,
I will declare him Wooden's
offspring.


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