I can't recall seeing this much agreement over a subject on this forum. Add me to the list too. I started a thread on another forum before the Derby asking the question "Where Did She Get Her License?" This is beyond ridiculous. If she's so intent on running the horse every 3-4 weeks, that's one thing. But have a plan and put him in spots where he has a chance to be competitive. And to use the Blue Grass result as justification that he had a shot in the Derby is completely wrong. We may not be the greatest of handicappers on here but when nine of 10 of us can obviously see something, perhaps we are right. He set extremely slow fractions and STILL couldn't hold on. There was nothing to even remotely indicate that he would do better with a faster pace and another furlong. Elliott says "I thought I had more horse than I had. But that was it." If she won't listen to us, if she won't listen to reason, listen to the man that was on his back. She says the horse talks to her. LISTEN TO THE DAMN HORSE!!!

Another thing that needs to put to rest is this silly stuff about the tighter turns and shorter distance of the Preakness. For one, the layout is not much different than Churchill. I remember a few years ago, the network that was doing the Preakness super-imposed a picture of the Pimlico layout over the Churchill one and it was surprisingly similar. Also, it's only 110 yards shorter. Technically, it's a shorter race. But if u have a horse that can't get the Derby distance, he's 95% unlikely to get the Preakness distance.

Actually, she is part owner of the horse so she isn't exactly "paid".

That's true...wow, we agree finally!

If U are the owner of a horse and he wins $$$$$$$ U get PAID!!! When someone gives u a Check that is called getting paid.

Don't forget that they just sold a piece of the horse to a guy looking to latch onto a ride in the Triple Crown. There may be some pressure to run from that party. Pure speculation.

I am surprised that she isn't going to Pimlico early so that she can run T-berg in a race next weekend.

Reminds me of the Arizona Fair Circuit. There are guys that run their horses every weekend, and then get pissed if they cannot find a race on a weekend. Pretty funny, but thats what you do with $1500 claimers...

ALostTexan

Since she is part-owner of most of the horses in her barn, I don't see her being fired anytime soon.

Churchill backstretch riddle: What do Jamie Sanders and milk have in common? Both come in 2%..

Career so far into Saturday? 226 starters, 10 wins (4 by T-berg..). So without him: 222/6.. Wow..

So...who's the Sugar Daddy??

Sanders is a moron
 

This woman does not have a clue. If any further evidence was needed she provided it in the 2 year old stake run 05/030/2007. She started three horses,all madiens in this stake race. Yes, a madien can win a 2 year old stake in a field comprised of horses with mostly one start. Her horses finished in the last three positions

Thats what I thought, T'Berg is running all the time because he is the meal ticket. He is the one carrying the load and putting her in the limelight.

Somewhere Nauseem Rauf is watching all this and saying to himself "Jesus Christ! If I had stock like that even I could hit 10%!"

Well,she is putting him in the Preakness.I hope this doesn't happen,but I expect this horse to break down very soon.He has got to be tired after all these starts with no rest,and now he is being asked to continue on at even longer distances,against the same horses who have whooped his ass time and again.This is usually when it happens.Even if a horse is tired or hurt,it will try and try and try,even after breaking something,which I hope does not happen, but with the way she is handling this horse,it looks inevitable.I sure wish someone at Churchill would go over and sit this dumbass down and have a little talk with her.

If any of us had Tberg i think we'd have a great shot to win more bucks than she has.

Just don't let her know about the Lone Star Derby, as she might think about it this coming weekend as a prep for the Preakness...

ALostTexan

Both Whirlaway and Citation ran between the Preakness and the Belmont. Whirly won the Belmont in his 27th start and THEN after the TC, with a race in between, he came back on June 21st to win the Dwyer.

Race horses ought to race. That said, I agree that T'berg is in at the wrong class and distance.

Amazing.

Teuflesburg seems like an iron horse but as Linny just said he belongs in different races. I don't think he's as good as some but he certainly deserves a chance to run in races he MIGHT be competitive. What would be so bad about races like the sprint on Preakness day that is restricted to 3YOs, the Woody Stephens, the Amsterdam and the King's Bishop?

It's a shame to see her running him in so many seemingly inappropriate spots.

the trainer is like 2/50 this year, obviously spotting any of her horses to win is not her strong point, she is taking the zito and jerkins philosophy to the extrerme.