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Downthestretch55 08-30-2006 06:13 PM

I'M not taking sides on this one...both KY and BR have good things to say...
I just want to see this thread hit 300 and get retired to the "reading room".
Peace.

Cajungator26 08-30-2006 06:43 PM

Boys and girls, let's just all be nice. :D

I think that Bernardini is a fantastic colt. I'm just not ready to annoint him yet and it seems that people want to attack those that aren't ready to say he's the best. As it stands right now, I think that both Barbaro and Bern are about equal. If Bern wins the next one out, he should get the Eclipse.

kentuckyrosesinmay 08-30-2006 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Boys and girls, let's just all be nice. :D

I think that Bernardini is a fantastic colt. I'm just not ready to annoint him yet and it seems that people want to attack those that aren't ready to say he's the best. As it stands right now, I think that both Barbaro and Bern are about equal. If Bern wins the next one out, he should get the Eclipse.

I think you've got that backwards. The people for Barbarro want to attack the people for Bernardini. I'm pretty neutral at this point.

Cajungator26 08-30-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I think you've got that backwards. The people for Barbarro want to attack the people for Bernardini. I'm pretty neutral at this point.

It'd be nice if you could stop being nasty for one minute. I am not "for" either one. I love horses. I'm entitled to my opinion, the same as you are entitled to yours and I haven't looked down on your opinion at all. Excuse me for being more impressed with Barbaro at this point than Bernardini. He wins the next one, and he deserves the award. Right now? I think they're even.

kentuckyrosesinmay 08-30-2006 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
if you went back and read the thread, you can plainly see I was trying to be nice to her. I asked her to stop bothering me, she continued (and stated she likes to "rile people up") and lost my temper (which is what happens when you rile people up)...but, I wasn't trying to bully her.

I was being funny BR. Notice the LOL in that post where I said I liked to rile people up. I was also being funny when I said that I was the expert on the board, and that both horses were awesome. I was taking a jab at some of the posters who were dissing either Barbaro or Bernardini in that respect. The posters who didn't attack me knew that I was being funny.

I don't really ever start trouble on this board. I have never really gotten into an argument with anyone until now. Usually, when people start personally attacking or pointing out typos, I stop the conversation because it means that their arguments have become too weak to continue. This time I didn't because you all now had something to prove when you said that you knew more about conformation analysis than I did. I was hoping to get it out of you all because, if you did know more or were at least knowledgeable in the subject area, then I would have someone to debate and talk with about it. However, not any of you who claimed that I didn't know what I was talking about provided me with any specific evidence that I wasn’t knowledgeable on the topic and didn't answer a single one of my questions. Therefore, you won't have any credibility until you establish yourself as actually being knowledgeable in the area. I called you out on it, and if you can't provide me with some solid evidence (FACTS), then listen instead of arguing and attacking about what I do or don't know.

kentuckyrosesinmay 08-30-2006 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
It'd be nice if you could stop being nasty for one minute. I am not "for" either one. I love horses. I'm entitled to my opinion, the same as you are entitled to yours and I haven't looked down on your opinion at all. Excuse me for being more impressed with Barbaro at this point than Bernardini. He wins the next one, and he deserves the award. Right now? I think they're even.

Now, I'm the one who is being nasty? Who did I call an idiot last night?

Cajungator26 08-30-2006 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I was being funny BR. Notice the LOL in the post. I was also being funny when I said that I was the expert on the board, and that both horses were awesome. I was taking a jab at some of the posters who were dissing either Barbaro or Bernardini in that respect. The posters who didn't attack me knew that I was being funny.

I don't ever start trouble on this board. I have never really gotten into an argument with anyone. Usually, when people start personally attacking, I stop the conversation because it means that their arguments have become too weak to continue. This time I didn't because you all now had something to prove when you said that you knew more about conformation analysis than I did. I was hoping to get it out of you all because, if you did know more or were at least knowledgeable in the subject area, then I would have someone to debate and talk with about it. However, not any of you who claimed that I didn't know what I was talking about provided me with any specific evidence that I wasn’t knowledgeable on the topic and didn't answer a single one of my questions. Therefore, you won't have any credibility until you establish yourself as actually being knowledgeable in the area. I called you out on it, and if you can't provide me with some solid evidence (FACTS), then be quiet and listen instead of arguing and attacking about what I do or don't know.

Jessica,

Nobody said that they knew more than you did about conformation. The only thing said was that PERHAPS you weren't the "expert" you said you were. The way you said it was condescending and I'm sorry for saying that, but it was. Can we just drop this and move on? Let's just agree to disagree on this topic. Nobody wants to fight over stupid stuff.

Cajungator26 08-30-2006 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Now, I'm the one who is being nasty? Who did I call an idiot last night?

I'm sorry for calling you that. It was uncalled for to call you a name and I was frustrated with you. Now, can we move on?

BellamyRd. 08-30-2006 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I'm sorry for calling you that. It was uncalled for to call you a name and I was frustrated with you. Now, can we move on?

yeah me too...let's just move on
:)

Downthestretch55 08-30-2006 07:50 PM

Smooch, smooch, and a big hug.
Don't we all feel better?

kentuckyrosesinmay 08-30-2006 07:59 PM

Apology accepted, but I can’t believe and am appalled at the fact that you called me that. You should know me better by now. I figured that everyone would have known that I was being funny when I said that I was an “expert”. I wasn’t meaning to be condescending at all to anyone. BR called me hopeless first, and I wasn’t trying to be nasty to him (nor was I really being nasty to him), but I was just calling him out on his knowledge of the subject. I also still don’t know just how I misused the word irony either. Also, the jabs at my 4-H awards were condescending to me. You all don’t know how hard it is to get to that level. First you have to go to district and win. Then you have to go to state against around 250 others and do well. Then the state takes the top ten individuals and makes them compete head to head for about three months, three months of traveling all around the state visiting farms, veterinary horse centers, judging clinics, seminars, practices at NC State Vet. Hospital…etc. (I studied this stuff for four years before I was good enough to make the state team.) Then you have the final competition at Southern Regionals, and they cut the team down to four members. Then, if you even make the team, you get to compete against all of the other individuals in the nation whose states selected them in the same exact process. Some of the people who become the top vets in the nation some straight into college off of the program. Some of that is stuff is DEEP... The NC 4-H Horse Program is one of the best things that ever happened to me. I got to travel to places that I would have otherwise never gone to. Everyone who loves both education and horses should get the opportunity to experience 4-H. It was the best time of my life, and then I grew up…

Also, I don’t just show QH circuit although it is technically the A circuit. I also show AAA-C h/j shows, dressage shows, and open schooling shows. I just wanted to get all of those facts straight before anyone talks bad about me, my horses, or the 4-H again.

I apologize too if I offended anyone. It wasn’t intentionally done except for maybe in BR’s case (although IMO, he deserved it because he was talking to me in a contemptuous manner from the get-go). Also, I was extremely tired last night because I was only running on four hours of sleep from the previous night.

Yes, I'll apologize to you too BR. You aren't so bad because if you were, you wouldn't have apologized. I am sure that there are many subjects in the future that we will both agree and disagree on. We can move on now. I won't say another word about it.

kentuckyrosesinmay 08-30-2006 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Smooch, smooch, and a big hug.
Don't we all feel better?

LOL DTS. Yeah, I think we all feel better...at least, I do.

Downthestretch55 08-30-2006 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
LOL DTS. Yeah, I think we all feel better...at least, I do.

Jess,
I feel better too. There are some very knowledgeable people that show up on this board. Each has their own strengths. Some can watch a replay and see what needs to go right next out, some are into pedigrees, some just love the history. Capping, betting.... there are too many areas for me to even mention.
Anyway, I pm'd you about conformation regarding some horses. I hope you got it.
Seems that you worked real hard to gain that expertise.
Anything that someone works hard at to gain expertise gets my respect.
Look at all the ones that bashed Oracle on the other thread (s). He's good at what he does, as I'm sure you are as well.
We only come here cause we love horse racing, horses, and talking about it.
Peace.
DTS

kentuckyrosesinmay 08-30-2006 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Jess,
I feel better too. There are some very knowledgeable people that show up on this board. Each has their own strengths. Some can watch a replay and see what needs to go right next out, some are into pedigrees, some just love the history. Capping, betting.... there are too many areas for me to even mention.
Anyway, I pm'd you about conformation regarding some horses. I hope you got it.
Seems that you worked real hard to gain that expertise.
Anything that someone works hard at to gain expertise gets my respect.
Look at all the ones that bashed Oracle on the other thread (s). He's good at what he does, as I'm sure you are as well.
We only come here cause we love horse racing, horses, and talking about it.
Peace.
DTS

I PMed you back. Thanks DTS.

Slewbopper 08-30-2006 08:36 PM

on and on.


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