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Kasept 05-13-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Should entries for Saturday be up today?

Later tonight after they draw Preakness 5-5:30 (on HRTV and ESPN 360).

Sightseek 05-13-2009 02:24 PM

Thanks! :)

philcski 05-13-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
The 3rd place horse got just a 68 Beyer.

Imagine regressing 32 Beyer points from your last start and still hitting the board in the Kentucky Oaks. Pretty amazing.

That was a very tough day to make figs though - the number for that race could easily have been a few points higher.

I got a 114 equivalent. I don't think it was as tough as I initially expected it to be, and I think Beyer's minions took too many liberties. The fact was Miss Isella ran out of her skin, the Bullsbay race was terrible, and Rachel was phenomenal. Everything else fell into line relatively well.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-13-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Doug..

Jerry Brown said the same thing yesterday about the Oaks in a discussion about the figs for the race.

I know.

I've agreed to pay him a $90 a day consulting fee so he supplies me with smart things to post.

Of course, we have nothing in writing ... but he knows I'm good for it.

XIIPointStables 05-13-2009 04:27 PM

anyone have the post positions?

Merlinsky 05-13-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by XIIPointStables
anyone have the post positions?

Yeah geez, where's the list?

Ok all I got is Big Drama is in the 1 hole and Rachel Alexandra's on the outside. I know this because Steve said so on his show. Hopefully Haskin can come on but it'll be at least 30 min I bet b/c he has his own deadlines. I've looked all over the place for the list of the posts. Anybody got the full run down? How long could it possibly take to put the bare bones list on ESPN or Bloodhorse? I don't mean Steve Haskin's typically excellent analysis. I just mean 1-13, horse names. I don't even need the jockeys/owners/trainers. Stupid ESPN360.com isn't available from my Time Warner provider and I can't get HRTV. What the heck?

philcski 05-13-2009 04:36 PM

1. Big Drama 10-1
2. Mine That Bird 6-1
3. Musket Man 8-1
4. Luv Gov 50-1
5. Friesan Fire 6-1
6. Terrain 30-1
7. Papa Clem 12-1
8. General Quarters 20-1
9. Pioneer of the Nile 5-1
10. Flying Private 50-1
11. Take the Points 30-1
12. Tone it Down 50-1
13. Rachel Alexandra 8-5

Antitrust32 05-13-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
1. Big Drama 10-1
2. Mine That Bird 6-1
3. Musket Man 8-1
4. Luv Gov 50-1
5. Friesan Fire 6-1
6. Terrain 30-1
7. Papa Clem 12-1
8. General Quarters 20-1
9. Pioneer of the Nile 5-1
10. Flying Private 50-1
11. Take the Points 30-1
12. Tone it Down 50-1
13. Rachel Alexandra 8-5

wow post 13.... the lucky number... wonder how much this hurts her chances? Maybe she is naturally fast enough to not be hurt by it? Just wide the first turn at least.. correct?

Also, no way Mine That Bird goes off at 6-1

ninetoone 05-13-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
wow post 13.... the lucky number... wonder how much this hurts her chances? Maybe she is naturally fast enough to not be hurt by it? Just wide the first turn at least.. correct?

Also, no way Mine That Bird goes off at 6-1

Baffert just said that he thought the post was a good thing for RA

Bobby Fischer 05-13-2009 04:44 PM

about 23 seconds to the first turn, plenty of time to settle

Antitrust32 05-13-2009 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Not necessarily. They start at basically the top of the stretch, so she should have plenty of time to get over.


ok cool... and she seems to have so much natural speed that she should be okay by then HOPEFULLY!!!

IrishofNDMan 05-13-2009 04:47 PM

alright, my fortune cookie today said:

"the only safe way to double your money is to fold it over once and put it in your pocket"

lucky numbers: 1,10,13,36,37,40

take the 1,10,13 to the bank....

TheSpyder 05-13-2009 04:51 PM

I think this is the most facinating race in a long time:

1. Does RA run away with the race taking on the boys - I don't think so
2. Is MTB a one race wonder or is the turn around warranted based on the one run change and Borel - I think better than expected but won't win
3. Do the horses that did not fire in the Derby come back to show the form that many thought? - Possible for FF
4. Can Big Drama control the race. Everyone's talking about it so I say no.
5. At first look it appears there will be a bunch of horses stalking. Who moves first? Not sure, but I'm starting to think a horse will close from off the pace and I'm going with TERRAIN!

Should be a great race.

Spyder

ateamstupid 05-13-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
ok cool... and she seems to have so much natural speed that she should be okay by then HOPEFULLY!!!

Hopefully this keeps her odds above 2-1.

2 Dollar Bill 05-13-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
alright, my fortune cookie today said:

"the only safe way to double your money is to fold it over once and put it in your pocket"

lucky numbers: 1,10,13,36,37,40

take the 1,10,13 to the bank....

Speaking of numbers.... didnt the # of last years derby... also be the same winning # as the preakness ? Or the year before.. ..:confused:

crazy 8's ?

IrishofNDMan 05-13-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill
Speaking of numbers.... didnt the # of last years derby... also be the same winning # as the preakness ? Or the year before.. ..:confused:

crazy 8's ?

3 years ago, Barbaro was 8 in the Derby, Bernardini 8 in the preakness, and Jazil 8 in the Belmont

10 pnt move up 05-13-2009 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
about 23 seconds to the first turn, plenty of time to settle

settle yes but I imagine the other riders keep her out at least in the 3 path.

ninetoone 05-13-2009 05:05 PM

Bookend exacta possible here....

moses 05-13-2009 05:38 PM

Was just watching ESPN and Hank Goldberg said that Big Brown won the Preakness from the outside post. Is my memory awful or is Hank Greenberg just a bumbling fool -- much like most sportscasters on ESPN?


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