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The Bid 11-07-2010 05:20 PM
I think it was pretty obvious she was best in there Cannon. As somebody that spends day after day watching horses, do you dispute she was the best horse in there? That CHD had an electricity around it that cannot be found on Derby day? That she brought a dying game a glimmer of light.

For me it was the Greatest Breeders cup. It was a culmination of a great career, and for any fan it should have been a pleasure to have been there to see it. To see her actually make it back to this race was epic. She put on a show for all the people who are so happy she lost. For all the contrarians who don't understand greatness. Ran her heart out, towed a 126lb potato sack around, and made all of our hearts skip a beat.

The Bid 11-07-2010 05:24 PM
Ann I have watched more racing on a long holiday weekend than you have in your life. I don't nose around in pedigrees of days past. If you are foolish enough to not recognize this mare for what she is, thats your loss.

My idea of a great campaign is pointing to a race, getting there, and still having your unblemished record intact. After winning the Breeders cup against the boys last year, you were lucky to see her back at all. Whether she raced once, twice, whats the difference. SHe showed up where they said, she ran how she was supposed to run, like a champ.

Ann they havent been handicapping races like that since trains brought horses to the track and rockingham had a dining room.

philcski 11-07-2010 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 718222)
I think the time of the race is very misleading because every day at Churchill the track slows down over the course of the day. I don't know if it was like that in past years but I've noticed that consistently this year.
You can't seriously believe this, right?

How do you explain the Chilukki (3rd race, 1:30 PM) vs the Dirt Mile (9th race, 5:30 PM), then? Both were run with an honest but reasonable pace, with horses who attended the pace and closers both hitting the board. The projected spread between the races would be about 15 Beyer points, and it ended up being 1.38 seconds... or 14 Beyer points. By your logic, it should have been ~2.5 seconds or 25-30 points. Not really believable.

Newsflash: Trainers make up a lot of bullsh!t.

Coach Pants 11-07-2010 06:02 PM

Dahoss 11-07-2010 06:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZmDWltBziM

Smooth Operator 11-07-2010 06:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bid (Post 718995)
You dont have a clue what you are talking about. Why dont you just read and learn something you jerkoff. She lost contact early. There is no horse running today thats in a photo w/ a horse like blame after that alone. Not to mention steading her when he was just getting her best run. Anytime you are beat a nose, there is some point in the race you could have done things differently and changed the outcome. SHe was visually the best horse and I dont see how anybody can argue that. Blame had a great ride, perfect trip and ran a wonderful race. He wasn't the best horse, but he will be, and should be HOY.

:tro:


Great stuff, Bid

Actually, there are quite a few on this board who think they're much smarter than they actually are.


Of course Z was the best horse in the race yesterday

Even my brother's 4yo could see that


That said, I too have no problem if B gets HotY.

Bigsmc 11-07-2010 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 719527)
:L:

Smooth Operator 11-07-2010 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 718704)
I think you should quit while you're ahead. You haven't exactly had a good handle on Zenyatta. You thought she was more likely to run in the Distaff. You were totally wrong about that. You thought her barely beating Rinterval was a god indication of her ability. You were totally wrong about that. You totally misinterpreted that race. Then you said that she wouldn't get within 10 lengths in the Classic. You were totally wrong about that. Instead of admitting how wrong you've been, now you want to say that this was a bad race. The problem is that the speed figures that you most rely on totally contradict this. The speed figures say that it was a very good race. So now you want to say that the speed figures are wrong. This has not been one of your better arguments. I think it's time to move on to a new subject. I think it's time to cut your losses on the subject of Zenyatta.

Yeah, RP, DrugS is one of those who thinks he's smarter than he actually is when it comes to 'capping…

Dahoss 11-07-2010 06:33 PM
Smoothie watching the Classic....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8kS-bNSrtQ

philcski 11-07-2010 06:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 719543)
Smoothie watching the Classic....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8kS-bNSrtQ
That was classic

Rudeboyelvis 11-07-2010 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 719543)
Smoothie watching the Classic....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8kS-bNSrtQ
:D
:tro:

Smooth Operator 11-07-2010 06:45 PM
Still wiping the egg off your face after your reigning HotY's 2010 campaign, Dahoss? LMAO

Dahoss 11-07-2010 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 719552)
Still wiping the egg off your face after your reigning HotY's 2010 campaign, Dahoss? LMAO
Your comebacks are as bad as your opinion.

lol

slotdirt 11-07-2010 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bid (Post 719497)
Ann I have watched more racing on a long holiday weekend than you have in your life. I don't nose around in pedigrees of days past. If you are foolish enough to not recognize this mare for what she is, thats your loss.

My idea of a great campaign is pointing to a race, getting there, and still having your unblemished record intact. After winning the Breeders cup against the boys last year, you were lucky to see her back at all. Whether she raced once, twice, whats the difference. SHe showed up where they said, she ran how she was supposed to run, like a champ.

Ann they havent been handicapping races like that since trains brought horses to the track and rockingham had a dining room.
So in other words, you really don't have a good answer to her post, eh?

The Bid 11-07-2010 07:09 PM
In other words Im not 93 years old talking about when horses were handicapped to 140lbs, or when they ran till they were 8. Be happy you saw as much of that champion as you did. Ill be over in the selection section giving away money until I get tired of doing so.


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