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ateamstupid 11-07-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid (Post 719040)
The second tier of horses, blame especially, had a dream trip, comfortable fractions. Blame is supposed to finish up well, hes a champion, he did. Zenyatta is not supposed to make that a picture.

If Blame's fractions were comfortable, what were Zenyatta's?

RockHardTen1985 11-07-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 719042)
I thought Blame was the better horse and, it sickens me to say this, had a much tougher campaign.

The results yesterday are accurate. Mrs. and Mrs. Moss got what they deserved. Now they can "What If" the rest of their lives. Maybe if they have the good fortune of getting another great horse in the barn they won't be such chicken s.hits and take some more chances with it.

At least you admit shes great.

gales0678 11-07-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 719046)
If Blame's fractions were comfortable, what were Zenyatta's?

retirement community fractions

The Bid 11-07-2010 10:33 AM

They campainged her like a Champion. No owners would bring a mare like that back and risk that unblemished record. Blame is a very very good horse. Id love to see him come back and be a superstar but they have already put him up. How can you knock owners who keep one around like Zenyatta. Regardless of who she faced this year, she was coming off a Breeders Cup win. Whether you like her or not, it was nice for racing, and nice to see her get to this point undefeated. I think they managed her career flawlessly. It all added to the drama, and pagentry of this glorious game.

ateamstupid 11-07-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 719050)
retirement community fractions

As opposed to her other races, where she's just flying early.

Dahoss 11-07-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 719025)
Your not the only one who thinks this... Capital Otb, all morning everyone thought this.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

Coach Pants 11-07-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 719047)
At least you admit shes great.

I'm just assuming she is. Although that field is one of the worst Classic fields of all time...what she did was pretty damn impressive.

My beef is primarily with Jerry and Ann Moss. It's pretty evident in previous posts.

ateamstupid 11-07-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid (Post 719053)
They campainged her like a Champion. No owners would bring a mare like that back and risk that unblemished record. I think they managed her career flawlessly. It all added to the drama, and pagentry of this glorious game.

I'm out.

Princess Doreen 11-07-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 719013)
Can we not call each other bud and guy... Its so 2 years ago,dudes...

It's better than "jerkoff".

RockHardTen1985 11-07-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 719056)
I'm just assuming she is. Although that field is one of the worst Classic fields of all time...what she did was pretty damn impressive.

My beef is primarily with Jerry and Ann Moss. It's pretty evident in previous posts.

Wow, I agreee... The connections ruined this, all of it.

Coach Pants 11-07-2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid (Post 719053)
They campainged her like a Champion. No owners would bring a mare like that back and risk that unblemished record. Blame is a very very good horse. Id love to see him come back and be a superstar but they have already put him up. How can you knock owners who keep one around like Zenyatta. Regardless of who she faced this year, she was coming off a Breeders Cup win. Whether you like her or not, it was nice for racing, and nice to see her get to this point undefeated. I think they managed her career flawlessly. It all added to the drama, and pagentry of this glorious game.

Well we'll just agree to disagree.

I understand where you're coming from. The whole "They're less of a p.ussy than so and so" it's just not worth proving wrong because this country is overrun with that line of thinking.

The Bid 11-07-2010 10:44 AM

For the record Im not a PC Dem. I just think they really gave the fans something we don't see anymore. A horse running into their 6 year old season.

Indian Charlie 11-07-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 718927)
Mike is making no excuses. He said its my fault.

It is your fault.

Indian Charlie 11-07-2010 11:10 AM

Apparently The Bidiot doesn't think that a final half mile time of 51.27 is indicative of a fast pace.

Nor does he seem to realize that Z was less than five back of Blame with about a half mile to go.

Oh yeah, that's right, Z stumbled and almost went over the rail which cost her her usual runaway win.

DaTruth 11-07-2010 11:13 AM

Blame probably would have won by more if Gomez didn't have to put him in a hard drive late on the far turn to keep Lookin At Lucky from getting the jump on him. Gomez could have waited longer if the only horse he had to run down was Etched.

SCUDSBROTHER 11-07-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 719057)
I'm out.

Thank You, Jesus

Princess Doreen 11-07-2010 11:22 AM

Hitler's reaction to Zenyatta's loss.

http://www.youtube.com/user/derbydanx

dalakhani 11-07-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 719102)
Blame probably would have won by more if Gomez didn't have to put him in a hard drive late on the far turn to keep Lookin At Lucky from getting the jump on him. Gomez could have waited longer if the only horse he had to run down was Etched.

Yes, this makes a LOT of sense.

SCUDSBROTHER 11-07-2010 11:33 AM

Well, I've enjoyed watching her compete. She always puts on a show. She entertains, and that (entertainment) is something that is not always easy to find in this game. I think the team of her haters deserve some credit for pointing out the quality of her fields, and the surface she raced on. She was greatly bothered by the dirt coming back at her. This shouldn't have been the 1st time she faced a large tough field on dirt. Have to admit that the connections could of won this race if they'd of listened just a bit.

DaTruth 11-07-2010 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 719116)
Yes, this makes a LOT of sense.

So a 5/16th run is not much more taxing than a 3/16th run?


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