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Old 05-04-2019, 06:29 PM
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Yup. I did have Maximum Security. Let’s get that straight.
With that said folks, that DQ was horrible. These fick$ing assholes wonder why
People are going to casinos. A complete disgrace to the sport of horse racing.
I’m done. This decision is a complete reflection of America today.
Complete pussification. And fuc$ bill Mott. I can’t wait to see that puke at Saratoga. I’ll get bounced but it will be worth it. **** this ****!
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:39 PM
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He knows in heart he did not win the Derby. Muddy track and the horse slides a bit. 20 would not have won.
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:41 PM
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Terrible DQ . 1 Hoss had no opening and forced his way up in there. Bullshrt call
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:43 PM
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Best horse didn't win...call I'm actually about with. I'm blown away that they flipped it though. Congrats to horse racing to taking 2 mins and turning it into 30
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:45 PM
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I don't post here very often at all, but I've literally seen it all today.

Full Disclosure: while I respected Country House, I did not use the horse in my trifecta. So I personally don't really have a b*tch coming to me - from a bettor standpoint - anyway.

I've seen bad takedowns, some of which I've benefitted from, some of which were ignored and also benefitted from. And vise versa.

Today marks a brand new chapter in abject absurdity. A chapter where brain-dead, know-nothing-about-the-sport *Chief Stewards* are Charged with making decisions that affect literally ten's of millions of dollars of hard-earned wagering dollars.

This CANNOT go unchallenged. The integrity of the sport (or what's left of it) is at stake.
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:48 PM
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I don't post here very often at all, but I've literally seen it all today.

Full Disclosure: while I respected Country House, I did not use the horse in my trifecta. So I personally don't really have a b*tch coming to me - from a bettor standpoint - anyway.

I've seen bad takedowns, some of which I've benefitted from, some of which I've were ignored and also benefitted from. And vise versa.

Today marks a brand new chapter in abject absurdity. A chapter where brain-dead, know-nothing-about-the-sport *Chief Stewards* are Charged with making decisions that affect literally ten's of millions of dollars of hard-earned wagering dollars.

This CANNOT go unchallenged. The integrity of the sport (or what's left of it) is at stake.
Dan this was worst travesty I ever saw and I have no betting interest in this. I will watch tomorrow when I’m sober but I’m not drunk enough to think this was fair.
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:50 PM
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There was no stewards inquiry. Objection was 20 vs 7. The interference from 7 onto 20 did not affect the result.

Was there an objection from other riders? No. Was there an official inquiry looking at other events? No.

Given that, anything other than the 7 staying up is farcical.
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:52 PM
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I thought it was the right call. The winner absolutely fouled War of Will. I’m not sure how that is even debatable.

I feel for anyone that bet Maximum Security but a foul is a foul. I’d expect the same result on a Monday at Parx as I do in the Derby.

Integrity is taking the horse down that fouled a horse and cost him a placing. Not taking him down because it’s the Derby would be the opposite of that.
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:52 PM
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Dan this was worst travesty I ever saw and I have no betting interest in this. I will watch tomorrow when I’m sober but I’m not drunk enough to think this was fair.
Tom, This is the first time in a while that I was sober for it.. I need to get back to drinking if this is how it works
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:53 PM
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To me it feels like the Derby did not happen.
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:59 PM
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I thought it was the right call. The winner absolutely fouled War of Will. I’m not sure how that is even debatable.

I feel for anyone that bet Maximum Security but a foul is a foul. I’d expect the same result on a Monday at Parx as I do in the Derby.

Integrity is taking the horse down that fouled a horse and cost him a placing. Not taking him down because it’s the Derby would be the opposite of that.
War of Will absolutely was fouled. Hossy you are correct - no debate.
Gafflione was interviewed and said he had no horse, regardless of MS coming out. The fact remains - Country House was never touched, never vied for the lead but was put up based on nonsense.
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Old 05-04-2019, 06:59 PM
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Tom, This is the first time in a while that I was sober for it.. I need to get back to drinking if this is how it works
This is all because it was Servis. Even Mott agrees they weren’t right. This was a joke.
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Old 05-04-2019, 07:01 PM
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War of Will absolutely was fouled. Hossy you are correct - no debate.
Gafflione was interviewed and said he had no horse, regardless of MS coming out. The fact remains - Country House was never touched, never vied for the lead but was put up based on nonsense.
^^^this!!!
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Old 05-04-2019, 07:01 PM
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To me it feels like the Derby did not happen.
Whoa, a Leo sighting!!! How you been Bro???!!!
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Old 05-04-2019, 07:01 PM
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I thought it was the right call. The winner absolutely fouled War of Will. I’m not sure how that is even debatable.

I feel for anyone that bet Maximum Security but a foul is a foul. I’d expect the same result on a Monday at Parx as I do in the Derby.

Integrity is taking the horse down that fouled a horse and cost him a placing. Not taking him down because it’s the Derby would be the opposite of that.
Ok. Tell that to the crowd that was booing. You’ve seen worse Hoss and you know it.
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Old 05-04-2019, 07:02 PM
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War of Will absolutely was fouled. Hossy you are correct - no debate.
Gafflione was interviewed and said he had no horse, regardless of MS coming out. The fact remains - Country House was never touched, never vied for the lead but was put up based on nonsense.
I think MS was DQ’d for fouling War of Will though. That’s why he was placed behind him.

Total agreement Country House wasn’t fouled.
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Old 05-04-2019, 07:03 PM
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Ok. Tell that to the crowd that was booing. You’ve seen worse Hoss and you know it.
I’m sorry you lost but the crowd booing doesn’t matter.

I’ve seen worse stay up and I’ve seen less come down. It has no bearing on what happened today.
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Old 05-04-2019, 07:04 PM
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If the 1 got second I’d be more convinced. Bad call. I saw mike smith do worse multiple timee including travers day
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Old 05-04-2019, 07:07 PM
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I think MS was DQ’d for fouling War of Will though. That’s why he was placed behind him.

Total agreement Country House wasn’t fouled.
This was literally coming through the last turn, not in the stretch, and not affecting the outcome of the race....would you feel the same if they bumped out of the gate?
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Old 05-04-2019, 07:08 PM
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Bayern stays up and ms doesn't..
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