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Old 07-30-2016, 09:25 AM
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One of the finest filly or mare's that I have seen race in my lifetime, and I am over 60, a grade 1 winner at 2 ,3 4 ,5 and 6, a dual BC winner a 3 time eclipse Champion, this is a very special and very rare animal, enjoy her while you can, you will probably never ever see another horse do what she has done consistently from 2 to 6yrs old, Good Luck today against a great Stellar Wind, and can't wait for Beholder to meet the boys again in The Pacific Classic.....The Queen is back, Long Live the Queen
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not her usual today, hopefully her best is still to come
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Didn't look like herself in post parade. Everybody's entitled to an off day.
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Didn't look like herself in post parade. Everybody's entitled to an off day.
She looked uncomfortable on the lead...
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zenyatta never had one
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zenyatta never had one
She was one of the rare ones that showed up every time.
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She looked uncomfortable on the lead...
Sometimes you feel like going to work, sometimes you don't.
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She's getting older and lost to a better horse today.
Stellar Wind should have won the Distaff and is still improving. She's the leader of the division out west moving forward.
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Stevens: "No excuse. Dick (Mandella) had the best quote, 'It's a lot easier to leave them in the barn.'"
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Sometimes you feel like going to work, sometimes you don't.
especially when it's warm out
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especially when it's warm out
You know it!!! Don't mind working in sub-zero weather but HATE summer humidity and heat!
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still would like to think the Beholder who destroyed males in the Pac Classic, would still be able to hold off a Stellar Wind on an off day
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Victor Espinoza has bitch slapped Gary Stevens twice on the biggest stage in two straight weeks. Maybe he is too old to ride now.
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Stevens: "No excuse. Dick (Mandella) had the best quote, 'It's a lot easier to leave them in the barn.'"
Which I assume they'll do for the Pacific Classic now.
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Not sure why Gary kind of rated her like that, i mean she let that horse be glued to her hip, i would rather see her go faster and if Victor wants to try a style that is completely new to SW then let go, but basically turning it into a sprint to the finish, with a horse who can make up lengths in the stretch was a bad plan. Took away her speed IMO, took away her advantage.
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He didn't "rate her", he just let her do her thing and banked on her being best. If he sends her and she opens up 5 and gets tired people are killing him then. Victor had a great ride, but Stevens didn't do anything wrong. The horse got beat on the square by a nice filly.

This obsession by racing fans of grasping for an excuse any time a big favorite gets beat is a disease. Beholder lost by a half-length to a fellow champion. It happens. She didn't have a "bad day" and Gary Stevens certainly didn't get her beat. She just lost narrowly to a fellow good horse in a terrific race. It doesn't need to be microanalyzed beyond that.
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Beholder lost by a half-length to a fellow champion. It happens. She didn't have a "bad day" and Gary Stevens certainly didn't get her beat. She just lost narrowly to a fellow good horse in a terrific race. It doesn't need to be microanalyzed beyond that.
Very, very good stuff. (and I say that as a huge fan of Beholder.)

We've gotten to see some outstanding horse races in the past week. CC vs Dortmund, Songbird vs Carina Mia, and now Beholder vs Stellar Wind.
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Which I assume they'll do for the Pacific Classic now.
Very little doubt about that. Hate to say it, but I could definitely see a fake "injury" coming out of this race followed by immediate retirement. Hope I'm wrong.
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Very little doubt about that. Hate to say it, but I could definitely see a fake "injury" coming out of this race followed by immediate retirement. Hope I'm wrong.
Right. Because that's how Richard Mandella and B. Wayne Hughes operate.
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Right. Because that's how Richard Mandella and B. Wayne Hughes operate.
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