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Old 11-12-2007, 05:58 PM
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Getting kinda old with these Ny trainers being caught....this one is rather sad as the one caught really has been having zero success over the last few years...even the drugs couldnt get him to the winner's circle.



Sciacca barn starts ban
By DAVID GRENING
Paul Barone, an assistant to trainer Gary Sciacca, began serving a 120-day suspension on Sunday for his role in an alleged attempt to have a horse consume a banned substance four years ago at Belmont Park. Sciacca, meanwhile, faces the same penalty, but has been given an unspecified amount of time to disperse his 16-horse stable to other trainers, stewards said Sunday.

The penalties stem from an incident at Belmont on June 28, 2003, when a New York Racing Association investigator allegedly witnessed veterinarian Dr. John McGuire, Barone, and Sciacca employee Oscar DeLeon giving the horse Storm River Kelly a mixture of sodium bicarbonate and electrolytes - known as a milkshake - on the morning of the day he was scheduled to race.

Sciacca was not present at the time - he was en route to the Grand Cayman Islands on vacation - but is penalized under the trainer's responsibility rule.

At the time, Barone, McGuire, and DeLeon were arrested by Nassau County police and charged with tampering with a sports contest. Those charges were later dropped.

NYRA stewards initially recommended that Sciacca be suspended 45 days while the other three men get 60 days. The New York State Racing and Wagering Board increased the penalties to Barone and Sciacca to 120 days, while McGuire was given a 180-day penalty and a $1,000 fine.

In February 2006, DeLeon served a 45-day suspension. Since the incident, McGuire has suffered a stroke that has left him incapacitated
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:03 PM
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I just posted the same thing....never would have thought it with this barn.....if you aint cheating you aint trying
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:05 PM
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Sciacca's milkshake brings all the boys to the barn
and damn right, it's better than yours.
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:06 PM
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Do those milkshakes come in different flavors, because that would be very humane if they did?
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:06 PM
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I just posted the same thing....never would have thought it with this barn.....if you aint cheating you aint trying

Christ..the guy milkshaked and STILL cant win. I think Sciacca needs to find another profession.
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:14 PM
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Why was there an almost 4 1/2 year delay from the infraction to the suspension?
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:41 PM
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http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...hlight=Sciacca
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:45 PM
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so is te DT horse part of the 16 horse dispersal to other trainers?
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:47 PM
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Shake it, sh-sh-shake it! Shake it like a polaroid picture!
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:48 PM
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so is te DT horse part of the 16 horse dispersal to other trainers?
I believe KYRIM will take over the training duties.
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:50 PM
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I believe KYRIM will take over the training duties.
Actually she's serving a 60 day suspension. Her assistant MercedeZ will take over the training duties.
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:56 PM
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Both of you are incorrect. The training will be taken over by Grits. Get it right.
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:01 PM
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so is te DT horse part of the 16 horse dispersal to other trainers?
That part of the stable hasn't been filled yet. All DT horses are with Chuck.
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:34 PM
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Will you still use Sciacca in NY now?
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:08 PM
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this pie topping has got to stop ...ice creaming is rampent in racing circles..as is no forking .. a common trait in the early days of racing ..using just hands to eat pie.......
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:13 PM
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Why was there an almost 4 1/2 year delay from the infraction to the suspension?
Gary fought this for the 4+ years given that the investigator changed testimony at least three times about what he saw or thought he saw and what stall Barone, the vet and groom were in at the time. Gary was on vacation.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:20 PM
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Will you still use Sciacca in NY now?
Yes.. It's not as if this some revelation that just occured. It's been hanging around endlessly without resolution until now.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:21 PM
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Doesn't this parallel what the NCAA looks at, I mean the people in charge have to take care of "their" house? I am getting tired of betting against horses only to read they were on drugs and then here the excuse of "someone in my barn was doing it without my knowledge". That is a failed excuse that has many parallels in history. Frankly it seems like its acceptable in what is becoming a very pathetic industry which refuses to acknowledge it has a major problem.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:28 PM
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I have to agree 10 pt move up. But in this case, 4 years and Sciacca was on vaca at the time ? The rules have to be understandable, the punishment needs to be swift. This case was not handled in a timely manner and punishing Sciacca when he was on vaca, it doesn't seem right to me.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:41 PM
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