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What owner would want one of theirs in a race with a Gill ?
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The guy/gal taking the call on the Gill horse knows the risk, win at 20% or get put in the dirt 12%. Last edited by ARyan : 01-25-2010 at 01:21 PM. |
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This is a case of an owner and his team of trainers are not caring about the horses and/or those who ride. He would rather win at 20%, and turn profits, then care for the issues at hand. Gill and crew are creating an environment where the inherited risk of racing is multiplied by the actions of Gill himself, his training staff and those who let those horses race. To think this is just part of racing is wrong, this is a man who cares about making a buck more then the lives of his horses, his jocks, his excercise riders, and those who are on the track with him. He is no different than Paragallo and others who should be banned from the sport. The alarming rate at which he has horses going down has even the jockey colony at Penn National running scared, trainers reaching out to track managment and yet you think this is something that is just part of the sport and should not be looked at any other way? |
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So 120 times a jockey has hit the dirt on a Gill horse at Penn National over the last year? |
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Probably Dale Baird.
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If you streteched those stats out over the last three months, assuming that both trainers made the similar starts (which easily could not be the case), then you are looking at a 10% breakdown rate. I would guess, that is considerably higher than Baird or anyone else you could some up with. |
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You mean to tell me "Sting" Ray Ganpath wont even ride for him anymore???
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I could understand the jocks not wanting to ride for him at Philly Park - he's 8-for-117 with a laughable $0.89 ROI at Philly since November.
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I know an owner that had a horse with Mitchell, claimed for 25k won for 50k two weeks later, then went on a losing streak just below that level down to 32k. The owner flat out told him to drop the horse as he cant win there and he is tired of paying the bills for the horse..... two weeks later he won a nw1x for a 55k purse and ran a lifetime top. I have no clue what happened to the horse, he was running for 8k last I saw. Also that same horse, when he won for the initial 50k we cleared many thousands on the horse, he was about 10/1 and Mitchell flat out said he should be 3/5 an hour before the races started.
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This thread is a bunch of misguided animal lovers not understanding two very fundamental things about horse racing.
1. The sport is all about money. Period. If there wasn't money to be won, hardly anyone would want to race horses. Only the already rich would be involved at all. 2. This is not a hobby. This is a business when you own the horses. Period. At the end of the month the owner can't tell the trainer, vet, dentist, etc that I shouldn't pay this month because I am a great person who didn't start my horse who has a slightly sore ankle. It doesn't work well, I've tried. Gill is not the greatest person in the world, but he is running his stable like a business and if animal lovers don't like it, then don't support horse racing until they change all the rules to suit you. Period. I've owned horses. It is a tough business in every aspect. Posting a bunch of crap about a guy or his practices (the same practices as many other but on a larger scale) is much easier. |
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