Texas Bull$hit

[casp0555]

just got this message from the on-line assistance at Twinspires..

As a result of an adverse court ruling in Texas, TwinSpires.com is suspending wagering activity from Texas residents effective immediately. The United States District Court for the Western District of Texas upheld a Texas law requiring residents of Texas who desire to wager on horseraces to wager in person at a Texas racetrack. This ruling does not impact TwinSpires.com customers in other states. Your account balance as of the end of the day Tuesday, September 24 will be mailed to you via check, after any point balances are added to your account.

Thanks alot Texas Pols...you bunch of freakin' a holes

[casp0555]

this is from the e-mail from Twinspires that I just found...

Dear William,


We regret to inform you that, as a result of an adverse court ruling in Texas, TwinSpires.com is suspending wagering activity from Texas residents effective immediately. The United States District Court for the Western District of Texas upheld a Texas law requiring residents of Texas who desire to wager on horseraces to wager in person at a Texas racetrack. The court's ruling was in response to a lawsuit TwinSpires.com filed in September 2012.

While the accounts of Texas residents will remain open, wagering activity will be disabled and TwinSpires.com will be mailing customers a check for any remaining account balance in the next 48 hours. You will still be able to access racing information, live race video, race replays, and Brisnet handicapping information.

We have filed an appeal and are optimistic that our legal arguments will prevail and residents of Texas, like residents in other states, will be allowed to wager on TwinSpires.com. In the meantime, however, we must respect the court's decision. We apologize for the inconvenience as we truly appreciate serving your account wagering needs.


Not holding my breath

[Danzig]

that just sucks!!

bad enough i have to go buy a moneypak or some such thing to load my TS account, but to have it shut altogether....
ah, texas.
this is what happens when the tracks try to force attendance. and as big as that state is, i can't imagine having to drive hours just to place a wager. this will backfire, no doubt.

[jms62]

If I had to physically visit a track to make a bet my yearly handle would drop by around 95%,

[Arletta]

Try BetAmerica.. Just say you live in another state. It is working for me so far.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Arletta

Try BetAmerica.. Just say you live in another state. It is working for me so far.

That would be my option although it could get complicated. I moved from Maryland to New Mexico 5 years ago and Twinspires closed my account when they somehow discovered my financial institutions listed my address in NM.

BetAmerica may not be as thorough. It would help having a relative in a wagering state that would let casp use their address to open a bank account just as a failsafe.

[Danzig]

that's why i have to use a greendot moneypak, the credit union blocks any transactions on my debit card to twin spires.
if you get a card like that, there's no bank to give out info either. if anything, get a po box out of state.

[cal828]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that's why i have to use a greendot moneypak, the credit union blocks any transactions on my debit card to twin spires.
if you get a card like that, there's no bank to give out info either. if anything, get a po box out of state.

Will they not take a personal check? I don't have a TS account. I went with xpressbet. I just opened an account with them and sent them a check to fund it. I didn't like the sound of that greendot thing.

[cal828]

Originally Posted by Arletta

Try BetAmerica.. Just say you live in another state. It is working for me so far.

What happens, if you hit a signer( and I know you will ma'am)? Won't they need accurate information on your address for tax purposes? Maybe not, I guess, if they've got your SSN, then that's all they need.

I have both TS and BetAmerica account in Texas. I called Bet America and as per the conversation, they still accept wagers from Texas residents. Probably wont last long though.

I live 40 miles to Sam Houston Race Park and there is no way I am going to do that drive regularly to make bets.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by cal828

What happens, if you hit a signer( and I know you will ma'am)? Won't they need accurate information on your address for tax purposes? Maybe not, I guess, if they've got your SSN, then that's all they need.

The chances of that happening are mighty slim. I hardly bet anymore at all and when i do, it's very small amounts. I haven't had a signer in over 10 ys and doubt I would be so lucky in the next 10

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cal828

Will they not take a personal check? I don't have a TS account. I went with xpressbet. I just opened an account with them and sent them a check to fund it. I didn't like the sound of that greendot thing.

not sure.
it's no biggie tho, when i'm out i get a card and load the account. i'd hate to send a check and the credit union not pay! haven't had an issue with greendot.
now, if TS would take paypal, life would be a bit better.

[santana]

opened an account with Bovada....i am pretty sure they are legit and no SS card required....the horse bets seem a little hard to navigate, but i am sure i can get used to it.

[Arletta]

We're all going to jail

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by Arletta

We're all going to jail

maybe so....

[santana]

I would really like to know how many in the TEXAS govt are on the take? Just look around,Louisiana, OK, NM all can bet whatever they want...Here in TX the biggest state with the most people get the shaft...it applies to the casino wagering also....better than 70% of the cars at Delta are from TX...

Smells fishy to me, and a lot more people.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by santana

I would really like to know how many in the TEXAS govt are on the take? Just look around,Louisiana, OK, NM all can bet whatever they want...Here in TX the biggest state with the most people get the shaft...it applies to the casino wagering also....better than 70% of the cars at Delta are from TX...

Smells fishy to me, and a lot more people.

Yep, and I am sure there has been some Texans pockets silver lined somewhere in the deal.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by santana

I would really like to know how many in the TEXAS govt are on the take? Just look around,Louisiana, OK, NM all can bet whatever they want...Here in TX the biggest state with the most people get the shaft...it applies to the casino wagering also....better than 70% of the cars at Delta are from TX...

Smells fishy to me, and a lot more people.

some of the busiest casinos are those that neighbor arkansas. but, you know, we don't want that stuff 'round here.

i figure that the tracks and casinos in texas think this will generate more people on site.
i figure it'll generate less handle, and more people finding ways to keep betting on line.


and i can't think of a better group of people to go to jail with, then with fellow derby trail'ers.

[casp0555]

If anything good comes out of this , it will be me getting out to the track more often. I live about 20-25 miles from Sam Houston and it is a nice facility.
What pisses me off is that when I want to place a wager on a PID or Santa Anita card during the week, it ain't gonna happen.
I will be at SH on Saturday for the Belmont card for sure.....

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by arizonadave

are there any OTBs in Texas?

Not that I am aware of.. Maybe in Austin