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Old 08-15-2012, 03:31 PM
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Default 8/18 (AP): Million, Bev D., Secretariat (G1's), St. Leger, Hatoof (2)

5th (2:15) Hatoof S.

About 1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $65,000

1 Direct Breeze Contreras A L 116 L
2 Ann of the Dance Sanchez D 116 L
3 Zapper Belle Hill C 116 L
4 Soft Whisper Albarado R J 118 L
5 La Tia Roman C 121 L
6 Awesome Gisel Martinez S B 116 L
7 Julia's Star Leparoux J R 116 L
8 Clear Danger Court J K 116 L
9 Nayarra (IRE) Dominguez R A 116 FTL
10 Banded Thornton T 116 L



7th (3:14) American St. Leger S.

1 11/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Vertiformer Leparoux J R 119 L
2 Helicopter Meier B 119 L
3 Lemonade Kid Torres F C 119 L
4 Lumberyard Jack Gutierrez Mario 121 L
5 Lake Drop Dominguez R A 121
6 Suntracer Perez E E 121 L
7 Game Ball Espinoza J L 119 L
8 Jakkalberry (IRE) O'Donoghue C 119
9 Lethal Felix J E 119 L
10 Zuider Zee (GER) Buick W 119 FTL
11 Ioya Bigtime Sanchez J 123 L
12 Bridge of Gold Fallon K 119 FTL



8th (3:48) Secretariat S. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Handsome Mike Gutierrez Mario 119 L
2 Summer Front Dominguez R A 123 L
3 Cozzetti Bridgmohan S X 123 L
4 Finnegans Wake Lezcano J 119 L
5 All Stormy Homeister R B Jr 119 L
6 Daddy Long Legs O'Donoghue C 123 L
7 Bayrir (FR) Lemaire C P 121
8 Silver Max Albarado R J 126 L



9th (4:23) Hatoof S.

About 1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $65,000

1 Imposing Grace Geroux F 116 L
2 Leading Astray Perez E E 118 L
3 Lady Candidate Mena M 118 L
4 Toxis Bridgmohan S X 118 L
5 Starship Duchess Thornton T 116 L
6 Lady Micaela Martinez S B 116 L
7 Silver Hustler Leparoux J R 116 L
8 Freedom Reigns (IRE) Graham J 116 L
9 Drama Drama Court J K 116 L
10 Soonerette Dominguez R A 118 L



10th (5:02) Beverly D. S. (G1)

1 3/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Kapitale (GER) Demuro M 123 FTL
2 I'm A Dreamer (IRE) Turner H 123 L
3 Romacaca Torres F C 123 L
4 Upperline Graham J 123 L
5 Mystical Star Lezcano J 123 L
6 Up (IRE) O'Donoghue C 117 L
7 Aruna Dominguez R A 123 L
8 Marketing Mix Leparoux J R 123 L
9 Stars to Shine Solis A 123 L
10 Joviality (GB) Buick W 123 FTL



11th (5:44) Arlington Million S. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Rahystrada Leparoux J R 126 L
2 Boisterous Lezcano J 126 L
3 Afsare (GB) Fallon K 126 FTL
4 Little Mike Dominguez R A 126 L
5 Colombian (IRE) Buick W 126 FTL
6 Treasure Beach (GB) Spencer J P 126 L
7 Willcox Inn Graham J 126 L
8 Wigmore Hall (IRE) Turner H 126 L
9 Crackerjack King (IRE) O'Donoghue C 126 FTL
10 Cherokee Lord Torres F C 126 L
11 Vertiformer Sanchez J 126 L
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:05 PM
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A thread not about politics!!

What an excellent day of racing.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:38 AM
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...and, for those of us lost souls who live in dark states, WGN is going to carry some of it.
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:34 AM
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Where did this "American St Leger" Stakes come from at 2 miles for 400k?
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:51 AM
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My username in all her glory finishing 2nd in the 1st division of the Hatoof Stakes in 2009 at 12/1

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Old 08-16-2012, 01:26 PM
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10th (5:02) Beverly D. S. (G1)

1 3/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Kapitale (GER) Demuro M 123 FTL
2 I'm A Dreamer (IRE) Turner H 123 L
3 Romacaca Torres F C 123 L
4 Upperline Graham J 123 L
5 Mystical Star Lezcano J 123 L
6 Up (IRE) O'Donoghue C 117 L
7 Aruna Dominguez R A 123 L
8 Marketing Mix Leparoux J R 123 L
9 Stars to Shine Solis A 123 L
10 Joviality (GB) Buick W 123 FTL
I'm just not that impressed with the probable favorites here, and I honestly don't see why Romacaca can't run the same race she ran in the Modesty and win this at a price.
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:44 PM
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I'm just not that impressed with the probable favorites here, and I honestly don't see why Romacaca can't run the same race she ran in the Modesty and win this at a price.
What was she last time....4-1?? I hope to get that again, but it's Calabrese so who knows
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:59 PM
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For the Bev D - I'm a Dreamer seems best of the Euros (her third in the Brigadier Gerard the best overall Euro race in the field, and she defeated Up), and Kapitale has to be used, especially with Demuro coming in for the ride, and Joviality won't get soft ground. Marketing Mix just isn't top-top-shelf it would seem, so the rest of the Americans seem relatively balanced. Has the look of a spread race.

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Old 08-16-2012, 02:41 PM
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What was she last time....4-1?? I hope to get that again, but it's Calabrese so who knows
She's 15/1 ML but yeah, I don't think there is any way a Calabrese horse, coming off a win in the Modesty, with a very good record at AP, who appears to be working just like she did before her last win goes off at that price against these horses.
Obviously Mystical Star, Marketing Mix and the Euros will take a lot of money, but I don't see them as being a lot more likely to win.

But then again it seems like every year I convince myself that some particular horse who ran well on Preview Day is going to win on Million Day....and it never works out.
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:12 PM
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Isn't there some crazy stat about the winners of the Modesty not winning the Beverly D. the same year?
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:46 PM
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I just looked it up. No Modesty winner has ever won the Beverly D. in the same year, but only 11 have tried. Of the 21 years when both races were run, only 4 Beverly D. winners ran in the Modesty.
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:53 PM
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Tentatively...

Jakkalberry w Bayrir/SilverMax w ALL w ALL w Crackerjack King

Then backup plays focusing on Kapitale/Joviality/I'mADreamer in the 4th leg
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:33 PM
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While I'm at it, Arlington Handicap winners are 0 for 16 in the Arlington Million of the same year. Of the 29 years when both races were run, 0 Million winners ran in the Arlington Handicap. But 10 were Europeans and didn't prep in the US.
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:20 PM
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Am I crazy for thinking Upperline is going to run huge and have a shot in the Beverly D? I know stidham said before the modesty was a prep going in, or is she just a cut below these?
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:16 AM
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I probably complain about this too much, but how idiotic is the positioning of these races? Rather than put the Secretariat in the pk4, we get a $7500 claimer to close out the sequence. Nothing like going from a $1 million race to a $12,000 race.
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:55 AM
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I probably complain about this too much, but how idiotic is the positioning of these races? Rather than put the Secretariat in the pk4, we get a $7500 claimer to close out the sequence. Nothing like going from a $1 million race to a $12,000 race.
You do have a $100k guar p5 with 15% takeout from R7 to 11
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Old 08-17-2012, 01:07 PM
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11th (5:44) Arlington Million S. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Rahystrada Leparoux J R 126 L
2 Boisterous Lezcano J 126 L
3 Afsare (GB) Fallon K 126 FTL
4 Little Mike Dominguez R A 126 L
5 Colombian (IRE) Buick W 126 FTL
6 Treasure Beach (GB) Spencer J P 126 L
7 Willcox Inn Graham J 126 L
8 Wigmore Hall (IRE) Turner H 126 L
9 Crackerjack King (IRE) O'Donoghue C 126 FTL
10 Cherokee Lord Torres F C 126 L
11 Vertiformer Sanchez J 126 L
I'm stuck between Wigmore Hall and Little MIke on top.

Rahystrada is my favorite horse here, of course, and I will do a win bet on him just because I'm a sentimental moron but basically those two on top with Wilcox Inn and Boisterous underneath and i guess the old man can be at the bottom of my tri and super.

I am not seeing any monsters here and the Euros look pretty weak to me anyway.
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Old 08-17-2012, 01:38 PM
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You do have a $100k guar p5 with 15% takeout from R7 to 11
True. . . I'd just rather have both options. And I'd rather have the three main races in a row for a pk3.
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Old 08-17-2012, 02:28 PM
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True. . . I'd just rather have both options. And I'd rather have the three main races in a row for a pk3.
Its because of the Hi5. They were hoping for a huge carryover but the DQ in yesterdays race caused it to be hit. There should be a nice p6 and p9 carryover tomorrow though. Card looks tough today
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Old 08-17-2012, 02:58 PM
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Where did this "American St Leger" Stakes come from at 2 miles for 400k?
it's the inaugural running. 1 11/16 over the turf.
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