4/18 (KEE): Lexington (GII); Giant's Causeway - Page 3

parsixfarms · #41 04-18-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

But today's race will? You'd have an extremely hard time convincing me not to go with a horse who has a 2-year-old foundation, and now two starts as a 3-year-old, who puts in a wide middle move like that.

The horse was off because of an injury, and lugged in badly in today's race. I'd say he's more likely to go backward off this race than move forward, especially with a short two-week turnaround and a likely hard dirt track at Churchill.

cakes44 · #42 04-18-2009, 05:54 PM

The horse has major talent. If I own him, I take a shot.

The Indomitable DrugS · #43 04-18-2009, 05:58 PM

The mother of Square Eddie was a multiple stakes placed turf horse - but she ran twice on dirt and could not stand up on dirt.

She was beaten 16 lengths with a 36 Beyer at Ellis Park the first time she tried dirt. The other time she tried dirt she was beaten 22 1/2 lengths at the Fairgrounds.

He started his career in Europe and has never raced on dirt before. Even if he was 100% ... he's a terrible syn-to-dirt projection on pedigree.

sumitas · #44 04-18-2009, 06:33 PM

And let's say he wins the KD . Off to Pimlico 2 weeks later ? It's not making any sense to run him in the Derby.

Linny · #45 04-18-2009, 08:02 PM

You think he should skip the Derby because he might win and that would force a Preakness try 2 weeks later?

Brilliant...

blackthroatedwind · #46 04-18-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny

You think he should skip the Derby because he might win and that would force a Preakness try 2 weeks later?

Brilliant...

Everything is relative.

Ask him about Golden Missile.

Indian Charlie · #47 04-18-2009, 08:26 PM

Is Sumitas the one with Golden Missile wood?

Travis Stone · #48 04-18-2009, 08:35 PM

It's easy to say no go on a message board, but if you owned the horse, you're going. I would go, and I would be excited about my horse who put in a nifty wide run in his prep.

Put it this way -- he's better than a few of the horses who jumped in this week.

Bobby Fischer · #49 04-18-2009, 08:51 PM

Queen's Plate underlay

The Indomitable DrugS · #50 04-18-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

It's easy to say no go on a message board, but if you owned the horse, you're going. I would go, and I would be excited about my horse who put in a nifty wide run in his prep.

Put it this way -- he's better than a few of the horses who jumped in this week.

Yeah - he's also been rushed back off of an actual injury.

Danzig · #51 04-18-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

It's easy to say no go on a message board, but if you owned the horse, you're going. I would go, and I would be excited about my horse who put in a nifty wide run in his prep.

Put it this way -- he's better than a few of the horses who jumped in this week.

maybe you would. i would not. it's not worth it to rush a horse if he's not ready. and you need to be ready, and have everything go pretty much the right way to make that race and do well in it. it's not the be all, end all of the racing world.

Danzig · #52 04-18-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yeah - he's also been rushed back off of an actual injury.

yeah, he has. lucky him, being bought by reddam.

Travis Stone · #53 04-18-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yeah - he's also been rushed back off of an actual injury.

I'm not saying I agree with the move... but it's tough to not do it in their position. It's not like the horse didn't finish today.

The Indomitable DrugS · #54 04-18-2009, 10:42 PM

J. Travis Reddam

NTamm1215 · #55 04-18-2009, 10:53 PM

I particularly enjoyed the ISO view of Prado's ride on Square Eddie where it became even clearer that he pushed the button far too soon. He had to have felt like a fool afterwards, especially knowing what he had under him.

You can't help but think he was rushed back, he was completely empty after the far turn move today and is now going to come back in two weeks against 19 horses on a foreign surface at a distance that's a furlong and a half farther than anything he's run before? I'd need a hell of a lot more than the 20-1 he's going to be to even ponder it.

NT

Danzig · #56 04-18-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I particularly enjoyed the ISO view of Prado's ride on Square Eddie where it became even clearer that he pushed the button far too soon. He had to have felt like a fool afterwards, especially knowing what he had under him.

You can't help but think he was rushed back, he was completely empty after the far turn move today and is now going to come back in two weeks against 19 horses on a foreign surface at a distance that's a furlong and a half farther than anything he's run before? I'd need a hell of a lot more than the 20-1 he's going to be to even ponder it.

NT

he'd win a beauty contest...as for the derby, i'd go with dunkirk first.

PatCummings · #57 04-18-2009, 10:57 PM

I thought today that if Square Eddie wins, I lose.

On Derby Day, if Square Eddie finishes in the super, I'll lose.

the_fat_man · #58 04-18-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I particularly enjoyed the ISO view of Prado's ride on Square Eddie where it became even clearer that he pushed the button far too soon. He had to have felt like a fool afterwards, especially knowing what he had under him.

Was that Prado? I was out of town for the day and when I watched the replay a few minutes ago I thought it was Ariel Smith riding.

How do the connections keep from taking turns burying their BOOTS DEEP IN PRADO's ASS after a ride like that? The stewards really need to call that ****** in. Nothing like taking a horse coming back off an injury and PUNISHING it.

philcski · #59 04-18-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

It's easy to say no go on a message board, but if you owned the horse, you're going. I would go, and I would be excited about my horse who put in a nifty wide run in his prep.

Put it this way -- he's better than a few of the horses who jumped in this week.

We also never named a horse "IMadetheCashCall" like that fool.

Square Eddie is a nice horse. Why ruin any potential he may have left by running him in the Derby?

Travis Stone · #60 04-18-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Why ruin any potential he may have left by running him in the Derby?

There is a massive long list of horses who fall under this umbrella.

I don't think he's a good bet, I would never bet him in a million years. But I certainly don't blame them for going, and I'm definitely not surprised.