WinStar Gets in the Microshare Business

[Dahoss]

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...oshare-company

This entire article is an embarrassment to journalism as a whole, but what I found most interesting is none of the participants even bother hiding what they are doing.

Long story short, WinStar has partnered with a microshare investment group called Commonwealth. Their first offering is in Country Grammar, recent runner up (and big move up first time in Baffert barn) in the Californian.

Check out the math here....WinStar bought Country Grammar for $110,000 in January. Commonwealth bought a 30% stake in him and they are selling 2,277 shares (of their 30%) for $50 a share. That’s $113,850.

How do these people sleep at night?

[moses]

There was an editorial on the Paulick Report defending MyRacehorse maybe a few days before this announcement. It was pretty hard to read. I wonder if the timing isn't a coincidence.

Are those 2,277 shares the full 30% or is that not even the full 30%?

[freddymo]

Didnt the horse run a 100+ BSF? And they are valuing the horse at 500k is that wrong? The question is really what is the horse worth to private buyers?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Didnt the horse run a 100+ BSF? And they are valuing the horse at 500k is that wrong? The question is really what is the horse worth to private buyers?

They paid $110,000 3 months ago. Do I really need to explain why this looks bad?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

They paid $110,000 3 months ago. Do I really need to explain why this looks bad?

I am against these hopeless money grabs, but this one seems ok. The colt ran a big figure after they bought the horse. Isn't that how people monetize their investment? I am a partner in a group that buys horses, hope they run well, and then hope to receive offers for more than we paid. Trust me, if the colt we have would have beaten that half to Justify the other day or came in second with a 90+ figure, we would have gotten offers. I am failing to understand what Winstar is doing wrong? They bought a colt; the colt seems fast on BSF's, and they are taking money off the table. Don't owners do that every day?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I am against these hopeless money grabs, but this one seems ok. The colt ran a big figure after they bought the horse. Isn't that how people monetize their investment? I am a partner in a group that buys horses, hope they run well, and then hope to receive offers for more than we paid. Trust me, if the colt we have would have beaten that half to Justify the other day or came in second with a 90+ figure, we would have gotten offers. I am failing to understand what Winstar is doing wrong? They bought a colt; the colt seems fast on BSF's, and they are taking money off the table. Don't owners do that every day?

You’re a very generous guy. I shouldn’t have to explain to you why an organization that pretty much prints money like WinStar probably doesn’t need to be fleecing unsuspecting people. Essentially, they are (through the investment group) charging people desperate to be involved $50 for what amounts to text messages about how the horse they “own” is doing.

This is a money grab. The valuation is okay I guess, but how many of the people that are going to pay their $50 know the horse was just purchased for $110,000 three months ago?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You’re a very generous guy. I shouldn’t have to explain to you why an organization that pretty much prints money like WinStar probably doesn’t need to be fleecing unsuspecting people. Essentially, they are (through the investment group) charging people desperate to be involved $50 for what amounts to text messages about how the horse they “own” is doing.

This is a money grab. The valuation is okay I guess, but how many of the people that are going to pay their $50 know the horse was just purchased for $110,000 three months ago?

Those people "Investing" the $50 just diversifying their "portfolio" instead of investing all in "Stop the Steal".

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by jms62

Those people "Investing" the $50 just diversifying their "portfolio" instead of investing all in "Stop the Steal".

MAGA!

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Didnt the horse run a 100+ BSF? And they are valuing the horse at 500k is that wrong? The question is really what is the horse worth to private buyers?

I’d be interested to see what his x-rays at the sale looked like. When a number of the Pompa dispersal horses (including maidens and unraced horses) sold for big money, Country Grammer was a Grade III stakes winner and only brought $110,000. You’d have thought, if he was OK, one of Chad Brown’s well-heeled clients would have purchased him.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I’d be interested to see what his x-rays at the sale looked like. When a number of the Pompa dispersal horses (including maidens and unraced horses) sold for big money, Country Grammer was a Grade III stakes winner and only brought $110,000. You’d have thought, if he was OK, one of Chad Brown’s well-heeled clients would have purchased him.

Agreed...