9/5 (CD): Derby Trail Probables ~ 11 for Preakness with Swiss

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

I think this is a great addition!!

To potentially win?

[moses]

Anyone have any thoughts on whether the race being one turn helps or hurts Tiz the Law? Obviously he is just fine around one turn...but the racing being one turn possibly benefits other horses more than it benefits him? I’m not sure. Would love to hear some of your thoughts.

[Alabama Stakes]

I’ll take 6-1 on TAP IT TO WIN for 200, Alex

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

I’ll take 6-1 on TAP IT TO WIN for 200, Alex

No chance now

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

To potentially win?

Well let’s see about that but the odds are tasty. I need to look at pps once they come out. It seems to be a race with limited pace based upon history of some of these. This race could fit this horse style and has a win over the track although much shorter. Could take them a long way.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

No chance now

So you’re saying no way I’ll get 6-1, since I like him, because everyone will bet on him dropping the odds way down......right ?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

So you’re saying no way I’ll get 6-1, since I like him, because everyone will bet on him dropping the odds way down......right ?

I’m saying you have the worst opinion on the internet. The only reason you like this horse is because he demolished the horse you gushed about for days.

I’m just glad you gave him out. I liked him. He has no chance now. Saved me money.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Well let’s see about that but the odds are tasty. I need to look at pps once they come out. It seems to be a race with limited pace based upon history of some of these. This race could fit this horse style and has a win over the track although much shorter. Could take them a long way.

You’re right about the lack of pace, although you’d have to think Tap It To Win is at least as fast and drawing the rail kind of forces his hand. He will be a price.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by moses

Anyone have any thoughts on whether the race being one turn helps or hurts Tiz the Law? Obviously he is just fine around one turn...but the racing being one turn possibly benefits other horses more than it benefits him? I’m not sure. Would love to hear some of your thoughts.

I don’t think it matters at all. There is a such a long backstretch run, the only horse who might be impacted at all is Tap It to Win, because of where he drew.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I’m saying you have the worst opinion on the internet. The only reason you like this horse is because he demolished the horse you gushed about for days.

I’m just glad you gave him out. I liked him. He has no chance now. Saved me money.

I here I am thinking it was only the worst opinion on this board, not the whole internet.
After your next 3 hundred dollar winners out here, You will be tied with me . You are 0 for 2020 here right ?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

I here I am thinking it was only the worst opinion on this board, not the whole internet.
After your next 3 hundred dollar winners out here, You will be tied with me . You are 0 for 2020 here right ?

I didn’t realize I was competing for winners on the board with you. My bad. I was too busy actually betting real money.

You’re the best at posting fake bets on here. Happy?

[knickslions2]

After looking at this I’m against Tap it to Win. Think horse takes step back here.

[herkhorse]

Is Silver Prospector off the Derby Trail? I thought he had 21 points.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Is Silver Prospector off the Derby Trail? I thought he had 21 points.

There's a line through him on the Churchill Media master list.

[Kasept]

Gouverneur Morris has colitis that will sideline him for a couple of months.

[Kasept]

Sept 5 (CD): Kentucky Derby (10f)

1 Tiz the Law (Barclay Tagg) 272
2 Honor A.P. (John Shirreffs) 120
3 Authentic (Bob Baffert) 100
4 King Guillermo (Juan Carlos Avila) 90
5 Ete Indien (Patrick Biancone) 74
6 Modernist (Bill Mott) 70
7 Ny Traffic (Saffie Joseph Jr.) 50
8 Dr Post (Todd Pletcher) 60
9 Basin (Steve Asmussen) 50
10 Mischevious Alex (John Servis) 50
11 Shivaree (Ralph Nicks) 40
12 Max Player (Linda Rice) 40
13 Storm the Court (Peter Eurton) 32
14 Enforceable (Mark Casse) 33
15 Thousand Words (Bob Baffert) 33
16 Sole Volante (Patrick Biancone) 30
17 Major Fed (Greg Foley) 30
18 Finnick the Fierce (Rey Hernandez) 25
19 Pneumatic (Steve Asmussen) 25
20 JPN RTTD: Cafe Pharoah (Noriyuki Nori)
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21 Anneau d'Or (Blaine Wright) 22
-- Dean Martini (Tom Amoss) 20
22 Uncle Chuck (Bob Baffert) 20
23 Excession (Steve Asmussen) 20
24 Candy Tycoon (Todd Pletcher) 20
25 Farmington Road (Todd Pletcher) 15
26 Attachment Rate (Dale Romans) 15

[Kasept]

BLUE GRASS

1- Shivaree
2- Finnick the Fierce
3- Art Collector
4- Mr. Big News
5- Man in the Can
6- Hard Lighting
7- Swiss Skydiver
8- Basin
9- Attachment Rate
10- Rushie
11- Hunt the Front
12- Enforceable
13- Tiesto

[Alabama Stakes]

Filly gets to strut her stuff

[moses]

Looking through the final odds for the Oaks and is it just me or a little crazy that Speech was 10/1 and Swiss Skydiver 9/2 while Gamine was 2/1? I know Gamine ran an incredible race last time out but it was around one turn...and I think those other two are fairly close to her going around two turns.

I’m sure I’ll be wrong and she’ll win the Kentucky Oaks by 10 lengths but I hope they stay at 2 and 5 times the odds as Gamine because they’ll be pretty solid value.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by moses

Looking through the final odds for the Oaks and is it just me or a little crazy that Speech was 10/1 and Swiss Skydiver 9/2 while Gamine was 2/1? I know Gamine ran an incredible race last time out but it was around one turn...and I think those other two are fairly close to her going around two turns.

I’m sure I’ll be wrong and she’ll win the Kentucky Oaks by 10 lengths but I hope they stay at 2 and 5 times the odds as Gamine because they’ll be pretty solid value.

I'm pretty sure the 2nd half of your last sentence contradicts the first half!

What struck me about this round of Future Wagers is how small the pools were. For the Oaks, just $35K in the win pool and $20K in the exacta pool! For the Derby, just $126K in the win pool and $65K in the exacta pool. Compare that to Derby Pool 2 which had $440K in the win pool and $151K in the exacta pool.

I would've thought that with so little sports to bet on, maybe the future wager would have attracted some attention. Nope.