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Old 06-24-2008, 03:18 PM
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Just watched the replay. What an absolute clown.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:21 PM
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I just watched it - it was Appeal To The City in the 3rd at Delaware Park yesterday.

Right before the wire he smacks the horse in the face with a left handed whip.

Watch for yourself at Cal Racing.
the head on shows more, but it's hard to tell if it was intentional. Probably was.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:22 PM
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He rode the winner in the feature yesterday, which I'd gather is after the race in question.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:22 PM
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Russell Baze got 15 (30?) days for misuse of the whip. Six months for Rose would seem very excessive.

Baze popped that horse twice trying to hold on to a placing finish in the stretch run of a race in Northern California where I am not convinced his use of the whip was excessive at all or that he even knew the horse was in trouble when he hit him the first time. He backed off the whip within less than a second but unfortunately he was dealing with a horse who had suffered an injury and he looked abusive in front of a grandstand for all to see.

An incident during a race should be treated completely differently than an action after a race such as what Stokes did one night at the Mountain recently or the jock in Philly who was disciplined a couple months back.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:24 PM
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the head on shows more, but it's hard to tell if it was intentional. Probably was.
It was 100% intentional.

There is no story out yet, but I just glanced over the chart comments from his mounts yesterday and when I read that a horse he was riding "shied from the whip" I figured it was the race.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:27 PM
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It was 100% intentional.

There is no story out yet, but I just glanced over the chart comments from his mounts yesterday and when I read that a horse he was riding "shied from the whip" I figured it was the race.
Yeah, I watched it again and watched his arm this time. No doubt.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:28 PM
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Granted I just watched probably the worst quality replay of the 3rd at DEL yesterday, but it doesn't look as bad as it was described earlier in this thread. I certainly don't think whatever might have happened warrants a six month suspension.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:28 PM
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How the **** can you just hit a horse in the face like that! What a ****ing *******!
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:29 PM
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I just watched it - it was Appeal To The City in the 3rd at Delaware Park yesterday.

Right before the wire he smacks the horse in the face with a left handed whip.

Watch for yourself at Cal Racing.
I may be a tard for this, but when I log into Cal Racing, I can only choose from California tracks' replays. How do I get Delaware?
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:29 PM
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he wasn't "showing" the whip
he was whipping

without hearing a good argument for Rose, it appeared that he lost his temper after the horse quit
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I may be a tard for this, but when I log into Cal Racing, I can only choose from California tracks' replays. How do I get Delaware?
You have to type the horses name in, can't do it via track unless it is california
Appeal To The City is the name, according to Drugs...
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:30 PM
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It looks like he tried to hit him on the head more than the one time too!
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:31 PM
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I can't find the head-on, which obviously would show more than what I just watched.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:32 PM
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Once this does get out, he might need a new occupation. Sharpen that pencil....
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:33 PM
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yea have to click the "Horse" tab after you log in

type in the name

headons / photos at the top after you choose the race
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:33 PM
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The part that has always befuddled me is the gross disparity between sanctions handed down to jockeys and those handed down for trainers. If he is going to get six months, then "the authorities" are saying that his offense is 2-3X worse than the misdeeds of trainers with "bad" positives. It just doesn't compute. No wonder the riders feel that they are treated as if they are a fungible commodity.
Jockeys usually get 7 day penalties that they delay until winter when they wont be riding anyway. How many get 6 months? Assmussen got 6 months and Biancone effectively got a year and he didnt even get a positive. I find that jockeys usually get days for things that are either dangerous or intentional. The vast majority of medication positives are neither dangerous or intentional.
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Make sure you watch the head on. It is pretty disgusting.

He won't ride again.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:33 PM
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I can't find the head-on, which obviously would show more than what I just watched.
go to calracing.com
login or create an account

find the replays, and search by horse. type in this horse.
pick yesterdays race, and right above the video you'll see some choices for the video.

click head on, and then a second later or so click full screen.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:34 PM
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I'm biased obviously, since I like the jock, but even with the head on, I think there's at least a chance the guy didn't do it with intent.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:34 PM
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I said that tongue in cheek, of course. Are there any more details to the story than the first post in this thread?
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  • 6 month suspension.
  • Has to pay all vet bills related to the injury.
  • Anger management courses.

John Wayne of Delaware Racing Commission should join me before the show ends with official ruling details...
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