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Old 06-11-2017, 05:32 AM
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BEL Belmont S. (G1): Tapwrit 103 (Tapit) T. Pletcher/J. Ortiz
BEL Metropolitan H (G1): Mor Spirit 117 (Eskendereya) B. Baffert/M. Smith
BEL Manhattan S (G1): Ascend 104 (Candy Ride-ARG) H. Motion/J. Ortiz
BEL Ogden Phipps S (G1): Songbird 97 (Medaglia d'Oro) J. Hollendorfer/M. Smith
BEL Acorn S (G1): Abel Tasman 99 (Quality Road) B. Baffert/M. Smith
BEL Just a Game S (G1): Antonoe 101 (First Defence) C. Brown/J. Castellano
BEL Woody Stephens S (G2): American Anthem 102 (Bodemeister) B. Baffert/M. Smith
BEL Brooklyn S (G2): War Story 102 (Northern Afleet) J. Navarro/J. Castellano
BEL Jaipur S (G3): Disco Partner 109 (Disco Rico) C. Clement/I. Ortiz
BEL Easy Goer S: West Coast 99 (Flatter) B. Baffert/M. Smith
BEL New York S. (G2): Hawksmoor-IRE 102 (Azamour-IRE) A. Delacour/J. Leparoux
BEL Belmont Gold Cup S (G3): Red Cardinal-IRE 100 (Montjeu-IRE) A. Wohler/E. Pedroza
BEL True North S (G2): Roy H 112 (More Than Ready) P. Miller/P. Lopez
BEL Bed o' Roses S (G3): By the Moon 94 (Indian Charlie) M. Nevin/R. Maragh
BEL Tremont S: He Hate Me 79 (Algorithms) H. DePaz/R. Santana
BEL Intercontinental S (G3): Mississippi Delta 95 (Giant's Causeway) M. CasseJ. Lezcano
BEL Wonder Again S (G3): New Money Honey 87 (Medaglia d'Oro) (C. Brown/J. Castellano
BEL Astoria S: I Still Miss You 75 (Majestic Warrior) J. Englehart/J. Castellano
BEL Jersey Girl S: Chalon 94 (Dialed In) P. Miller/P. Lopez

CD Mint Julep H (G3): Dona Bruja-ARG 102 (Storm Embrujado-ARG) I. Correas/D. Cannon

WO Achievement S: Pink Lloyd 106 (Old Forester) R. Tiller/E. Da Silva
WO Woodbine Oaks: Holy Helena 90 (Ghostzapper) J. Jerkens/L. Contreras
WO Plate Trial S: Guy Caballero 84 (Quality Road) C. Day Phillips/R. Hernandez
WO Alywow S: Queen Del Valle 87 (Baryshnikov) R. Nagle/E. Zayas

SA Rainbow S: Sharp Samurai 93 (First Samurai) M. Glatt/G. Stevens
SA Thor's Echo H: Big Macher 97 (Beau Genius) R. Baltas/R. Bejarano
SA Special Goddess S: Kenda 82 (Bodemeister) P. D'Amato /F. Prat

MTH Crank It Up S: Deer Valley 75 (Speightstown) T. Proctor/A. Gallardo
MTH Decathlon S: El Deal 102 (Munnings) J. Navarro/J. Ferrer

DEL Obeah S: Power of Snunner 84 (Power by Far) T. Kreiser/E. Gonzalez
DEL Stanton S: Master Plan 83 (Twirling Candy) T. Pletcher/C. Cedeno

BTP Gendelman Memorial H: Gone too Soon 73 (Belong to Me) R. Guciardo/J. Velez

PRM Prairie Mile S: Jerrid 81 (Mineshaft) S. Young/F. Wethey
PRM Panthers S: Chanel's Legacy 80 (Dominus) L. Chleborad/A. Birzer
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Old 06-11-2017, 12:44 PM
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Did the Belmont stakes get as high as a 103 because of the results of the Brooklyn?

It seemed like the shorter races were run much much much faster than the Belmont and Brooklyn. I realize figures are not going to cover all circumstances perfectly, because there are always going to be races that don't fit or make sense, but the two mile and a half races seemed to be glacial in comparison to the shorter stakes (Met mile,acorn, phipps, easy goer).
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Did the Belmont stakes get as high as a 103 because of the results of the Brooklyn?

It seemed like the shorter races were run much much much faster than the Belmont and Brooklyn. I realize figures are not going to cover all circumstances perfectly, because there are always going to be races that don't fit or make sense, but the two mile and a half races seemed to be glacial in comparison to the shorter stakes (Met mile,acorn, phipps, easy goer).
Every other dirt race was one turn. Completely different dynamic than having to go around those giant turns twice. Both the Brooklyn and Belmont figures make total sense in the context of what those horses and the also-rans had been running.
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MTH Decathlon S: El Deal 102 (Munnings) J. Navarro

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Old 06-12-2017, 12:32 PM
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Glad to see Mor Spirit has turned into a total monster. Loved him early on then kinda got off him, at one point he just looked like a plodder. Look at him now.
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Old 06-12-2017, 01:29 PM
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Did they ever verify or adjust the final time of the Jaipur? If not, does anyone know what figure ThoroGraph gave Disco Partner?
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Glad to see Mor Spirit has turned into a total monster. Loved him early on then kinda got off him, at one point he just looked like a plodder. Look at him now.
While he ran well it was an ideal situation, he was pressing a very slow pace and thus got the jump on the rest of the field.

In hindsight the runner up, Sharp Azteca ran a really poor race by his own standards.

I would be against both next out.
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While he ran well it was an ideal situation, he was pressing a very slow pace and thus got the jump on the rest of the field.

In hindsight the runner up, Sharp Azteca ran a really poor race by his own standards.

I would be against both next out.
Navarro's numbers in NY are awful. Draw your own conclusions from that.
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While he ran well it was an ideal situation, he was pressing a very slow pace and thus got the jump on the rest of the field.

In hindsight the runner up, Sharp Azteca ran a really poor race by his own standards.

I would be against both next out.
Stronly disagree. He crushed that field, and while the competition hasn't been great every race he has run this year has been very fast. He could dominate the Whitney and Woodward if Bob sends him. I think its pretty simple, he has matured a lot of horses are never given the chance.
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Stronly disagree. He crushed that field, and while the competition hasn't been great every race he has run this year has been very fast. He could dominate the Whitney and Woodward if Bob sends him. I think its pretty simple, he has matured a lot of horses are never given the chance.
Time will tell, I am almost certainly going to be against him at 2/5 next out unless he shows up in some non competitive spot where there is no field.

Pace for the Met was one of the slowest in the last decade, which is all i have figures for.
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Time will tell, I am almost certainly going to be against him at 2/5 next out unless he shows up in some non competitive spot where there is no field.

Pace for the Met was one of the slowest in the last decade, which is all i have figures for.
Hard to believe he wont be in the Whitney. Baffert wont run him vs Arrogate now, and already mentioned the Pegasus as a long term goal.
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Did they ever verify or adjust the final time of the Jaipur? If not, does anyone know what figure ThoroGraph gave Disco Partner?
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