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I'd also like to hear what exactly you think any of these alleged medication-related innovations will do to stop the actual cheaters? All they do in reality is give the cheaters a BIGGER advantage. And, simultaneously, cost owners MORE (not less like Rupert insanely suggests)..
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Meanwhile, let's get back to the original source of this chaos: TSG's avarice for unattainable handle increases in the SoCal market which resulted in a communication/leadership vacuum via the replacing of Rick Hammerle and driving out of Dennis Moore.
In addition to the current fatality tally tripped by the impossibly difficult main track surface issue, there's going to be further breakdowns because horses are almost certainly harboring bone fissures from 3 months of training/racing on the hardened strip. Moore has the track back to the deeper, slower version that allowed only 8 and 10 breakdowns the past 2 years, so what else has to be done to fix that problem? To his credit, Tim Ritvo has been trying to source nuclear imaging machinery which can provide early detection of horses that are developing vulnerabilities. As we learned with the NY Task Force in 2012, all areas need to be on full alert to prevent as many horses from going wrong as possible. I can't imagine what happens with the next incident. The pressure/scrutiny that will accompany the resumption of racing is going to be incredible. It's obviously impossible to easily explain the intricacies of this business to the general public.. Tough enough to explain it to people who profess to be interested or involved.
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You don't stop cheaters with anything other than security, and enforcement, which concern implements, PAYS FOR and oversees such is a different more critical discussion. The point was TSG PR move worked...That's All |
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Just for some perspective here, I count 12 horses that died at either Aqueduct or Belmont since December 1 while training or racing:
https://data.ny.gov/widgets/q6ts-kwhk IMO, it's entirely possible that the 22 deaths at SA are just a statistical blip, and are not related to changes in either management or the racing surface itself., Does anyone have a source for the total number of horses running and training at SA, AQ, and Belmont?
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson Last edited by Dunbar : 03-17-2019 at 11:30 AM. Reason: added last sentence |
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I heard that in Australia they have a machine that can test for like 10,000 different drugs. In this country we only test for around 20 different drugs. The machine in Australia costs $1 million. They should get one here. In addition, we need to hire more investigators to patrol the stable area. They should also put in tons of cameras all over the place. I think we should either eliminate or at least cut way down on joints being injected. If a guy wants to inject an ankle, at the very least the state vet should have to do an x-ray or some type of imaging and then make the decision as to whether or not it would be safe to inject the ankle. Right now you have private vets injecting ankles, often times without even doing any imaging. Should bute be illegal? I don't know if it should be totally illegal but I think the amount they give them right now is too much. Right now the dose they give is big enough that you often times can't tell how your horse came out of the race the day after the race. The trainer will tell you flat out(the day after the race) that he has to wait another day or two for all the bute to wear off, to really see how the horse came out of the race. Don't get me wrong. If a horse comes out of a race with a slab fracture, the bute will not mask something that extreme. But it is enough so that an ankle may not puff up for a couple of days. Guys will tell you that giving a horse bute is like a person taking a couple of aspirin. I would be fine with that if it were true but it's obviously not true. As I said before, the dose of bute they give a horse is so big that it will keep swelling down for 2-3 days. That is not the case with a person if they take 2-3 advil or aspirin. I think we have made some positive changes already. Guys were totally abusing clenbuterol and that has practically been eliminated. That is a good thing. I think the restrictions on shock wave therapy are very positive. I think they have done a lot of good things in New York. We are making some positive changes but I think we can still do way more. We should look at a place like Hong Kong and basically try to emulate them the best we can, when it comes to drugs and security. With regard to lasix, I agree with most of what Dr. Arthur says. In this short interview he talks about lasix and other drugs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQw_bB9aO-w |