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Old 05-02-2022, 12:31 PM
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Old 05-02-2022, 12:32 PM
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Old 05-02-2022, 01:09 PM
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Old 05-02-2022, 04:52 PM
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148th Kentucky Oaks

1. Secret Oath (Saez/Lukas) 6-1
2. Nostalgic (J. Ortiz/Mott) 15-1
3. Hidden Connection (Gutierrez/Calhoun) 20-1
4. Nest (I. Ortiz/Pletcher) 5-2**
5. Goddess of Fire (Velazquez/Pletcher) 15-1
6. Yuugiri (Geroux/Brisset) 30-1
7. Echo Zulu (Rosario/Asmussen) 4-1
8. Venti Valentine (Gaffalione/Abreu) 20-1
9. Desert Dawn (Rispoli/D’Amato) 20-1
10. Kathleen O. (Castellano/McGaughey) 7-2
11. Cocktail Moments (Lanerie/McPeek) 30-1
12. Candy Raid (Bejarano/Desormeaux) 30-1
13. Shahama (Prat/Pletcher) 15-1
14. Turnerloose (Franco/Cox) 20-1
AE-15. Beguine (Pietz/Santana) 30-1

Nice M/L Really?
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Old 05-02-2022, 05:49 PM
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Nice M/L Really?
Battaglia has really done enough.
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Old 05-02-2022, 05:58 PM
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Battaglia has really done enough.
He doesn't take an important job serious on arguably the most important card in racing
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Old 05-02-2022, 07:19 PM
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I’d love 15-1 on Nostalgic, the Oaks winner.
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Old 05-03-2022, 07:06 AM
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I’d love 15-1 on Nostalgic, the Oaks winner.
Pretty sure you will get at least that price.
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Old 05-05-2022, 10:51 AM
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I’d love 15-1 on Nostalgic, the Oaks winner.
Your screwed as that's my pick of the day. There are alot of good horses in this race but I love the direction this horse is going. The price is right on her! Good luck.
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Old 05-05-2022, 11:22 AM
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Pretty sure you will get at least that price.
She had no business running past that filly last time. I think she’s just that good. Hopefully I’ll see her complete the Oaks / Alabama sweep.
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Old 05-05-2022, 12:01 PM
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She had a perfect trip and rode the best part of the track the entire race. Why did she have no business running down a horse that is probably better off the pace?

She’ll never get a better trip than she had last time so I’m not sure how she’s going to get that again and deal with better horses.
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Old 05-05-2022, 12:31 PM
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Other filly is very good and had a similar great trip. She will complete the exacta again
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Old 05-05-2022, 12:32 PM
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I'm probably the worst handicapper in this discussion, but isn't there a decent chance of Yuugiri getting out and getting gone vs these gals?
She is quicker than Echo Zulu early, dare I say by a comfortable margin, and she can control this all the way around.
Yes, there are some serious late runners to hold off in Secret Oath, Kathleen O and Nest, but she's a Shackleford and loves a brawl.
Set a fast pace last out and dug in like her daddy to get the win, then galloped away after the wire like nothing happened.

She probably can't hold them all off, but maybe she can hang in there for a piece at a very nice price.

Basically, I'm against Echo Zulu here and I smell a rat with Yuugiri or maybe even Hidden Connection
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Old 05-05-2022, 02:17 PM
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Other filly is very good and had a similar great trip. She will complete the exacta again
But why did she have no business running by Venti Valentine? Use your words. Pretend you don't just use phrases trying to sound smart.
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Old 05-06-2022, 12:18 PM
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My selection is Secret Oath. I think she’ll win it without any others having enough of an excuse that they could have otherwise won.
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Old 05-06-2022, 05:03 PM
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Lukas is the best. To be able to still get it done in his 80’s is just amazing.

Secret Oath was a very deserving winner and there was never any doubt.
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Old 05-06-2022, 05:10 PM
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Lukas is the best. To be able to still get it done in his 80’s is just amazing.

Secret Oath was a very deserving winner and there was never any doubt.
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Good race by the 1 horse.

Better?
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Old 05-06-2022, 05:59 PM
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Someone is starving for attention...
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Old 05-06-2022, 10:33 PM
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She had no business running past that filly last time. I think she’s just that good. Hopefully I’ll see her complete the Oaks / Alabama sweep.
Good call.

Anything else I can confidently throw out tomorrow?
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