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12-08-2010, 12:16 PM
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My team the astros have made this mistake and it dooms them to nowheresville. They signed big name, getting older guys and it killed them. Carlos Lee was Jason Werth of a few years ago. They gave him a 6 year 100 million dollar deal and have regretted ever since. He now takes up 20% of their payroll and cant be moved. Tejada was acquired in a trade (where they gave up nothing, he was a salary dump) but his 15 million a year made him and Lee added to berkman and Oswalt almost 70% of a 100 million dollar payroll. Since McClane was an idiot who wouldnt rebuild despite an aging, decling team they won just enough games to be a semi-playoff contender but never really was good enough. They have drafted terribly which adds the the misery and part of the reason is ownership wouldnt pay above slot for players and wound up with lesser players than they should have. Last edited by Cannon Shell : 12-08-2010 at 12:28 PM. 
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12-08-2010, 12:51 PM
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There are those that would argue Ed Wade is the biggest problem in Houston, although they love him now on WIP.
 Lee is using the Nats to get the 7th yr he wants from Texas or NY. Texteira did the same last yr. So they have to overpay. In this case it was length of service as the Phils supposedly offered just as much per yr for shorter period. Did I think it was a great signing- no. But lets look at it this way. Nats have what they believe are their top 3 rotation guys in Strassburg, J. Zimmerman and Storen. Zimmerman is 2nd yr of TJ surgery, Strassberg will be another yr. Their defense was one of the worst. LaRoche and Werth give them huge boosts defensively- which will lead to less unearned runs, lower pitch counts, and more importantly allow this young staff to have the confidence that they dont have to throw the perfect pitch, that the defense will make the play behind them. This move is about preparing this team for 3 yrs when the Phils run ends. And if they are really throwing the $$ that everyone is reporting at Lee, then Lerner doesnt seem to be cash strapped at this time.
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12-08-2010, 01:33 PM
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We in Philly love Ed Wade because he gave us Oswalt AND 12 million dollars for J.A. Happ.
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12-08-2010, 01:56 PM
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Washington has virtually no staff to speak of. They have Zimmerman who should (needs to be) better, Hernandez who is a longshot to repeat his year, Lannan who has a 75 mph fastball and no one else who threw 90 innings. Offensively they are offensive. The starting SS and CF barely break .300 in OBP with little power. The get zero from 2nd base. La Roche is one of the lower ranked 1st baseman offensively. Who knows what they will get from left field. Flores and Ramos may be able to provide some hitting from behind the plate but are still question marks. They have nothing off the bench to even platoon. Lee and Werth are fine as pieces of a rich contender. Washington is neither though suddenly are trying to spend like drunk sailors. Of course it is hard to sign guys when you arent a contender but they should be targeting cheaper options or guys still in their 20's. Try to put something together for Zack Grienke. Make a huge play with the Lee money for Felix Hernandez next season. Sign a few stop gap vets to 1 or 2 year deals like Derrick Lee or Pena and flip them at the deadline if they are producing.
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12-08-2010, 01:58 PM
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12-08-2010, 02:04 PM
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http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/new...s_stl&c_id=stl
Be interesting to see if Berkman can hold up playing the OF fulltime given he struggled to run last year.
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12-08-2010, 04:40 PM
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Dan Snyder hasnt made a good signing EVER yet the Skins always have money to waste on anything on the Xmas list.
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12-08-2010, 08:24 PM
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The thing is that overpaying guys doesnt make them better or younger. The extra 40 million could be an entire bullpen outside of a closer for 4 years. If they signed Joey Votto to the same deal it is a home run. Werth is an upgrade in right field. But at the plate he isnt really an upgrade over Dunn who Chicago got for 70 million less. If Lerner has the stomach to sponsor a $150 million dollar payroll, well I give him credit and say thats great. But i still think they are going to regret this contract like the Cubs regret the Soriano deal.
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12-08-2010, 09:50 PM
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If the Nats become a real team and break even all is good? In Wash if they become a significant team the revenue will be around to support the crazy spending. The Pirates might be the best value in baseball.. They earn a ton, spend little, and you can still take your your fam of 4 to the gane for 100 bux in box seats.. The same game event at Yanks is 1500.. the Pirates have zero shot of winning but everybody in Pitts can bring their kids to a game and sit in prime seats.. You want to watch the Yanks vs. Baltimore on a tues in July in great seats? Perhaps 1500 will get it done for the night...
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12-08-2010, 10:04 PM
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Wouldn't a more viable plan be to reduce ticket prices, promote the entertainment product and patiently grow a longterm contender? Wouldn't it have been smarter to keep Dunn and overpay him as he was already a popular player in this area? Werth is a third tier player at best and by no means remotely close to being any kind of draw.
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12-08-2010, 10:19 PM
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Sure the bottom feeders have shown that you can make a profit by spending as little as possible and collecting the shared revenue. No one is debating that. The issue here isnt if Lerner has the money to spend. It is that spending money unwisely on long term contract to less than proven guys is almost always detrimental to your team, it almost never works. Here is the teams starting staff as of now Livan hernandez John Lannan Jordan Zimmerman Jason Marquis Yuneska Maya or JD Martin Think adding Cliff Lee makes them a contender? Here is their lineup presently Jason werth Nyjer Morgan Josh Willingham Ryan Zimmerman Ian Desmond Danny Figeroa mystery 1st baseman/ M. Morse/A. LaRoche I. Rodriguez Werth and Zimmerman are solid players. Uh thats it. Wasting tons of money trying to win 78 games instead of 69 is still a waste. You have to spend money to contend, not buy ultra high on 30 something players.
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12-08-2010, 10:32 PM
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12-08-2010, 11:04 PM
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Supposedly Boston signed Carl Crawford 7 years/142 million.
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12-09-2010, 12:59 AM
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They are still suspect at short, behind the plate and in middle relief but that is one potent lineup in that little league ball park. Middle relief shouldn't be hard to fill. The key will be at catcher. They desperately need a catcher (or two) that can handle that staff. You have to give them credit for spending the cash to catch up with the yanks. I don't want to hear anything about buying championships though.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/ml...ory?id=5900903 If the above happens, I will not be happy. It would be nice if they dumped somebody like Shields, not Garza, to make room for Hellickson in the rotation. They'd better get a ton from the Cubs for him.
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12-09-2010, 08:21 AM
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The Nats tickets are pennies compared to the Yankees or some other teams. Things aren't cheap down here, but it's nothing like New York.
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12-09-2010, 02:51 PM
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Indians signed Jack Hanahan. Evidently it's not the columbus zoo guy who goes on Letterman. who knew.
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