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Old 05-16-2021, 05:03 AM
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Default Weekend Stakes Beyers: Rombauer 102

PIM Preakness S (G1): Rombauer 102 (Twirling Candy) M. McCarthy/F. Prat
PIM Dinner Party S (G2): Somelikeithotbrown 96 (Big Brown) M. Maker/J. Ortiz
PIM Chick Lang S (G3): Mighty Mischief 89 (Into Mischief) S. Asmussen/R. Santana
PIM Gallorette S (G3): Mean Mary 86 (Scat Daddy) H. Motion/L. Saez
PIM Maryland Sprint S (G3): Special Reserve 100 (Midshipman) M. Maker/I. Ortiz .
PIM Jim McKay Turf Sprint S: Firecrow 100 (Maclean's Music) R. Moquett/J. Rosario
PIM James W. Murphy S: T D Dance 81 (Can the Man) B. Cox/J. Castellano
PIM Sir Barton S: The King Cheek 82 (Laoban) J. Ness/J. Rodriguez
PIM Skipat S: Chub Wagon 89 (Hey Chub) G. Preciado/I. Ortiz

PIM Black-Eyed Susan S (G2): Army Wife 86 (Declaration of War) M. Maker/J. Rosario
PIM Pimlico Special S (G3): Last Judgment 100 (Congrats) M. Maker/J. Ortiz
PIM Miss Preakness S (G3): Red Ghost 83 (Ghostzapper) W. Ward/J. Velazquez
PIM Allaire DuPont Distaff S (G3): Spice Is Nice 94 (Curlin) T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez
PIM The Very One S: Caravel 87 (Mizzen Mast) E. Merryman/F. Geroux
PIM Hilltop S: Alda 78 (Munnings) H. Motion/J. Velazquez

CD Louisville S (G3): Arklow - (Arch) B. Cox/F. Geroux

BEL Soaring Softly S (G3): Bye Bye 83 (Into Mischief) C. Clement/E. Cancel

SA Lazaro Barrera S (G3): The Chosen Vron 90 (Vronsky) J. Kruljac/U. Rispoli

GP Roar S: Moonlite Strike 81 (Liam's Map) S. Joseph/E. Zayas
GP Powder Break S: Shifty She 88 (Gone Astray) S. Joseph/E. Gonzalez

EVD EVD Classic S: Treys Midnite Moon - (Neko Bay) C. Richards/T. Thornton
EVD EVD Distaff S: Snowball - (Apriority) S. Breaux/D. Saenz

PRM Golden Circle S:Flash of Mischief - (Into Mischief) K. Broberg/E. Gonzalez
PRM Goldfinch S: Inject - (Frosted) B. Cox/A. Jimenez

HPO Roman Zipper S: Super Charlie - (Shadow Hawk) R. Bliss/B. McNeil
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Old 05-16-2021, 10:47 AM
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102 seems a little light. Over under was 1:55 for the race and he was well under that. Fastest time since Curlin. I guess the Beyers of old will never be reached again even though the times are quite similar.
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Old 05-16-2021, 11:17 AM
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Funny how a horse posts a 14 pt new Beyer top, and a not word. Even though it is typical of California horses to run faster outside the state, than when they are at home. Where are the conspiracy theories today?
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Old 05-16-2021, 11:37 AM
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Funny how a horse posts a 14 pt new Beyer top, and a not word. Even though it is typical of California horses to run faster outside the state, than when they are at home. Where are the conspiracy theories today?
The form on that horse was very muddled with just one start on the dirt in the past 6 months (and only 3 lifetime) and that coming in the merry-go-round Blue Grass that saw a loping early pace. In the Preakness, the confirmed late runner got fast fractions to sit behind and for good measure a ridiculous early move from the Japanese import to force the issue up front.

As has been mentioned many times throughout the years on this website by people well-versed in speed figures, 3yos tend to improve dramatically especially in the early part of their sophomore years.

Rombauer was 5th in the BC Juvenile last year, finishing well and passing several horses. That type of promising effort has been a strong profile for classic success for decades. See:

Tank's Prospect, Spend A Buck, Danzig Connection, Alysheba, Bet Twice, Easy Goer, Go and Go, Pine Bluff, Sea Hero, Tabasco Cat, Editor's Note, Lemon Drop Kid, Point Given, Afleet Alex, Mine That Bird, Lookin At Lucky, Union Rags, and Exaggerator.
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Old 05-16-2021, 12:46 PM
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Iím surprised the Beyer wasnít a 120. Iím sure this has something to do with Irad and Jose I just canít figure out a way to tie it together. Maybe someone can.
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Old 05-16-2021, 01:35 PM
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Funny how a horse posts a 14 pt new Beyer top, and a not word. Even though it is typical of California horses to run faster outside the state, than when they are at home. Where are the conspiracy theories today?
Conspiracy theories about Rombauer?

Has his trainer had multiple overages that I missed? Do Mike McCarthy horses frequently display multiple gears?
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Old 05-16-2021, 01:47 PM
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Rombauer is nice story about what is good about the sport
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Funny how a horse posts a 14 pt new Beyer top, and a not word. Even though it is typical of California horses to run faster outside the state, than when they are at home. Where are the conspiracy theories today?
His last race was in KY.

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His last race was in KY.

Great post
Even though his last race was in Kentucky, is he not a Southern California based horse? Everyone of his workouts have been at SA or DMR. So he is a Southern Cal horse.
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Even though his last race was in Kentucky, is he not a Southern California based horse? Everyone of his workouts have been at SA or DMR. So he is a Southern Cal horse.
Iím missing the point. What are you alluding to?
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102 seems a little light. Over under was 1:55 for the race and he was well under that. Fastest time since Curlin. I guess the Beyers of old will never be reached again even though the times are quite similar.
What figure did he earn on the Dan Rowan Big Vagina scale?
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111 sounds about right. Curlin ran slightly faster and got that, on a faster track than Saturday.
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111 sounds about right. Curlin ran slightly faster and got that, on a faster track than Saturday.
So you figure a new 23 point top and your basis is comparing his time with a race 14 years ago where based on absolutely nothing you think the track Curlin did it on was faster.

Iím surprised Beyer hasnít reached out to you to get you on the team.
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It is Based on the track announcer saying the lightning fast pimlico strip during Curlins race. Why are Beyers so low now compared to the past? Isnít that how one should compare how good a hoss is? According to the numbers, everyone now is way slower than they were back then. But if they are running the same times, how can this be ?
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It is Based on the track announcer saying the lightning fast pimlico strip during Curlins race. Why are Beyers so low now compared to the past? Isnít that how one should compare how good a hoss is? According to the numbers, everyone now is way slower than they were back then. But if they are running the same times, how can this be ?
Youíve outdone yourself with this one. Take a bow.
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