Hey NYRA

[jms62]

Now that Sports betting proliferates most of the country and many are sitting at home and in Sports Books across the country awaiting for the start of the NFL.. Think about this but I am �� certain you will ignore it as it isn't your idea. That is how the world works.

1. Start your Sunday card at 11:30 and run a $500K Guaranteed Early Pick 5
** NOTE ** Look at your average early Pick 5 Sunday handle to estimate your risk (You are welcome)
2. Run your races as follows

Race 1 11:30 AM
Race 2 11:50 AM
Race 3 12:10 PM
Race 4 12:30 PM
Race 5 12:50 PM

I waive my usual $150 per hour consultation fee but would appreciate some Sweet Belmont Stakes 2022 Suite (Just Kidding)

[Dahoss]

How do you think trainers would react to this new idea?

Are you running the rest of the card with the normal times in between races or will the entire card be run like this?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

How do you think trainers would react to this new idea?

Are you running the rest of the card with the normal times in between races or will the entire card be run like this?

Whatever they want but I would assume that normal time would be ok as I want to-get this in while I have fresh eyeballs manythat are not horse racing fans but will get in for the action.Tell us all why it is a horrible idea?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by jms62

Whatever they want but I would assume that normal time would be ok as I want to-get this in while I have fresh eyeballs manythat are not horse racing fans but will get in for the action.Tell us all why it is a horrible idea?

I just asked you questions Jim. I didn’t give my opinion on if it’s a good idea or not.

Logistically it could never happen. If you run the 1st at 11:30, it’d be impossible to run the 2nd 20 minutes later. By the time the race is run, made official, pictures taken, jocks get back to room, etc it wouldn’t leave them enough time to get back to paddock to get a leg up again.

Trainers and owners won’t want to run in these races as the horses running in them will be at a disadvantage. They won’t get a proper warm up or at least the same kind of warm up they are used to.

I get where you’re going with it…I just don’t see how it could work time wise.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I just asked you questions Jim. I didn’t give my opinion on if it’s a good idea or not.

Logistically it could never happen. If you run the 1st at 11:30, it’d be impossible to run the 2nd 20 minutes later. By the time the race is run, made official, pictures taken, jocks get back to room, etc it wouldn’t leave them enough time to get back to paddock to get a leg up again.

Trainers and owners won’t want to run in these races as the horses running in them will be at a disadvantage. They won’t get a proper warm up or at least the same kind of warm up they are used to.

I get where you’re going with it…I just don’t see how it could work time wise.

Ok I hear you but do they not speed up when weather is imminent? You get what I am trying to do... Start at 11?... Heavily advertise this with Fanduel and Draftkings. I think you easily double that guarantee.

[King Glorious]

That is an extremely long break between races two and three lol

[blackthroatedwind]

We handled just under $10 million today

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by jms62

Now that Sports betting proliferates most of the country and many are sitting at home and in Sports Books across the country awaiting for the start of the NFL.. Think about this but I am �� certain you will ignore it as it isn't your idea. That is how the world works.

1. Start your Sunday card at 11:30 and run a $500K Guaranteed Early Pick 5
** NOTE ** Look at your average early Pick 5 Sunday handle to estimate your risk (You are welcome)
2. Run your races as follows

Race 1 11:30 AM
Race 2 11:50 AM
Race 3 12:10 PM
Race 4 12:30 PM
Race 5 12:50 PM

I waive my usual $150 per hour consultation fee but would appreciate some Sweet Belmont Stakes 2022 Suite (Just Kidding)

Not sure how many people are sitting around sports books relative to how many people are betting on line ( not to mention with bookmakers ). Do most Sportsbooks even take racing?

Regardless, it's certainly worth trying to find ways to engage sports bettors, but I'm not sure if you want to anger your core players trying to do this. Also, you cannot run races at Belmont 20 minutes apart. 24 or 25 is probably the least and even then it's hard. I think 27 is the shortest we ever go to. Plus, when you do this, it has a negative effect on handle.

I always wanted to try one or two Saratoga Brunch cards beginning around 11:30, as the place empties out on Sundays by 4, with most people heading home by then, especially if they are from out of town. I'm all for trying different post times, though later posts are not great for handle. Not sure about earlier as it pretty much hasn't been done.

I think as racing tries to integrate more with sports betting, maybe an earlier start on Sundays will be something at least someone tries. People in racing don't ignore good ideas just because they aren't their own. They may steal them without attribution....but don't ignore:-)

[Konk]

Will they offering COMMUNION on track before the first race?
I do like the idea of being able to go broke long before kick off. Actually before lunch. I could afford to lose a few pounds.