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Old 08-23-2017, 12:20 PM
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A little early to be drunk isn't it ?
back to DORTMUND, it will be interesting to see where he will surface, perhaps a shot at the Clark ? I can't see a run in the BCC without preps.
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Old 08-23-2017, 12:21 PM
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also , lookin at lee , at 30 to 1...show wager ??
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Old 08-23-2017, 12:43 PM
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What the heck happened here? Dortmund needs to be retired if he isn't already. He hasn't run an even respectable race since October of last year.
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Old 08-23-2017, 01:14 PM
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Dortmund is back in training on the down low in southern California with Art Sherman for maybe 7 weeks now.
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:29 PM
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Old 08-23-2017, 07:22 PM
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Dortmund is back in training on the down low in southern California with Art Sherman for maybe 7 weeks now.
He is a cripple. He is the Yao Ming of horses.
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Old 08-23-2017, 07:55 PM
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He is a cripple. He is the Yao Ming of horses.
Yao Ming is a hall of famer. Was also friends with Henry Ma and Lu Ni Binh.
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Old 08-23-2017, 11:18 PM
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Speaking of Baffert horses and their weight:
Take a look at how West Coast has filled out.
Late developing 3yo and all that...........WC looks really good.
Sidebar: American Anthem sure didn't want to let WC get by him in that work,it looks like he'll be tough if a stretch duel unfolds.

http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/we...ust-20th-2017/

Sidebar no. 2 (I have to get another word.......you can only do so much with sidebar) The Baffert with the best work was probably Drefong.........he's on go.
http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/dr...ust-19th-2017/

FWIW........Good Samaritan looked outstanding in his final Travers work,it sure looks like Saratoga agrees with him.
As does McCraken.........Ian Wilkes has to be happy with his work.

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Old 08-23-2017, 11:21 PM
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Not sure about West Coast, think 10F may be a bit too far.

Defrong will be tough, if he got enough out of that last event. There is not much pace in that race, in fact many of these dirt races lack real pace, the Kings Bishop being the exception.
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Old 08-24-2017, 05:12 AM
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Ballston spa is stacked
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Old 08-24-2017, 06:33 PM
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Unless I missed something, Irad Ortiz has only one stakes mount.
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:00 PM
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Unless I missed something, Irad Ortiz has only one stakes mount.
6th-Personal Ensign Stakes (Gr. 1): Going for Broke (Chad Brown)
12th-Ballston Spa Stakes (Gr. 2): Lady Eli (Chad Brown)
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Old 08-24-2017, 09:11 PM
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Thank you Steve. Guess I'll start eating more carrots!👓👀🤓
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Old 08-24-2017, 11:00 PM
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In the Ballarina its a very interesting race, both Curina Mia and Paulasilverlining are going to be up against pace issues and all these horse have run figures that can beat each other.

The most interesting horse is Curlins Approval who interestingly enough runs her best when right behind a slow pace, fast pace and she does not run as well. Sat it should be slow, and she will be on the great rail and I like her to beat this group. I will save with ByTheMoon who is the lone speed and I will use Highway Star who loves this distance and has figures that can win.
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Old 08-25-2017, 12:19 AM
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Off of the York race today........... Idaho becomes the only look in the Sword Dancer.
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Old 08-25-2017, 01:12 AM
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In the Ballarina its a very interesting race, both Curina Mia and Paulasilverlining are going to be up against pace issues and all these horse have run figures that can beat each other.

The most interesting horse is Curlins Approval who interestingly enough runs her best when right behind a slow pace, fast pace and she does not run as well. Sat it should be slow, and she will be on the great rail and I like her to beat this group. I will save with ByTheMoon who is the lone speed and I will use Highway Star who loves this distance and has figures that can win.
Strange pace race............reminds me quite a bit of last years BCFMS.
Considering that Paulassilverlining has become quicker since entering the Chad barn,I think she's the one.
I don't think she's pace dependent in any way now.
I do think a couple in here might be course dependent:
By The Moon: I now think Belmont is where she wants to be.
Curlin's Approval: It sure looks like Gulfstream is her playground.
BTW.........did you see who's saddling Curlin's Approval ?
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Old 08-25-2017, 10:00 AM
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Strange pace race............reminds me quite a bit of last years BCFMS.
Considering that Paulassilverlining has become quicker since entering the Chad barn,I think she's the one.
I don't think she's pace dependent in any way now.
I do think a couple in here might be course dependent:
By The Moon: I now think Belmont is where she wants to be.
Curlin's Approval: It sure looks like Gulfstream is her playground.
BTW.........did you see who's saddling Curlin's Approval ?
I dont think either one of chads horses are pace dependent, I think they are bad values based on their figures. I wont be surprised to see either win but at 8/5 and 5/2 i will take a stand.
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Old 08-25-2017, 12:42 PM
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I dont think either one of chads horses are pace dependent, I think they are bad values based on their figures. I wont be surprised to see either win but at 8/5 and 5/2 i will take a stand.
Absolutely the correct way to bet(seeking value).
99% of the time I travel down that road,it's really the only way to go.
I notice sometimes the NY super-cards can play very true to form.
Starting with Songbird,and then the P-6 (with the exception of the Travers) it sure looks formful to me.
I see three singles & two doubles in a short paying P-6.
I tried to find value in the Saturday Stakes,but some of those races look very straight forward.
Good luck 10 point.
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Old 08-25-2017, 04:17 PM
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One thing I am certain of, Practical Joke will be the favorite at around 7/5 in the Kings Bishop. I have no idea why people are saying American Anthem will be, he is gonna be around 3/1, Takiful will be about 4/1 and then I see a drop.
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Old 08-25-2017, 04:26 PM
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One thing I am certain of, Practical Joke will be the favorite at around 7/5 in the Kings Bishop. I have no idea why people are saying American Anthem will be, he is gonna be around 3/1, Takiful will be about 4/1 and then I see a drop.
Favored? Over Baffert and Pletcher? No way
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