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2018 Eclipse Award Ballot & Discussion ~ HOY to Justify
Horse of the Year: 1st - Justify, 2nd - Accelerate, 3rd - Monomoy Girl
Two-Year-Old Male: 1st - Game Winner, 2nd - Improbable, 3rd - Maximus Mischief Two-Year-Old Filly: 1st - Jaywalk, 2nd - Newspaperofrecord, 3rd - Chasing Yesterday Three-Year-Old Male: 1st - Justify, 2nd - Good Magic , 3rd - McKinzie Three-Year-Old Filly: 1st - Monomoy Girl, 2nd - Midnight Bisou, 3rd - Rushing Fall Older Dirt Male: 1st - Accelerate, 2nd - City of Light, 3rd - Mind Your Biscuits Older Dirt Female: 1st - Blue Prize-ARG, 2nd - Wow Cat-CHI, 3rd - Divine Miss Grey Unique Bella Male Sprinter: 1st - Roy H, 2nd - Whitmore, 3rd - Imperial Hint Female Sprinter: 1st - Shamrock Rose, 2nd - Marley's Freedom, 3rd - Vertical Oak Male Turf Horse: 1st - Glorious Empire , 2nd - Stormy Liberal, 3rd - Sadler's Joy Female Turf Horse: 1st - Sistercharlie-IRE, 2nd - A Raving Beauty-GER, 3rd - Fourstar Crook Steeplechase Horse: 1st - Zanjabeel-GB, 2nd - Optimus Prime-FR, 3rd - Iranistan Jockey: 1st - Irad Ortiz Jr., 2nd - Joel Rosario, 3rd - Jose Ortiz Apprentice Jockey: 1st - Wes Hamilton, 2nd - Edgar Morales, 3rd - Reylu Gutierrez Owner: 1st - Hronis Racing LLC, 2nd - Klaravich Stables, 3rd - Peter M. Brant Breeder: 1st - John D. Gunther, 2nd - Summer Wind Equine, 3rd - Fred Hertrich & John Fielding Trainer: 1st - Chad Brown, 2nd - Bob Baffert , 3rd - Brad Cox
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I of course likeCatholicBoy better then Good Magic. Winning the G1 Belmont derby on turf then coming back to win Travers G1 on Dirtwas fun to watch
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McKinzie leapfrogged Catholic Boy for me with the Malibu win. I think it's inarguable that beyond the Triple Crown winner he was the most talented sophomore.
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The best 2-year-old filly is Newspaperofrecord. She would be my 3rd choice for HoY. I have seen plenty of Jaywalks and Monomoy Girls and Roy H's etc. Newspaperofrecord is why you watch, the time when every so often, a horse competes at an entirely different level from their peers. She might be my number 2 choice for HoY.
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I am personally biased towards Newspaperofrecord, but I understand why Jaywalk is going to win, but I actually think this is probably the most compelling argument for Newspaper ( and, as much as I personally like Freddy, I rarely agree with him ). Horses like Newspaperofrecord are memorable in ways that most horses are not.
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Best moments of 2018 in no particular order:
1. Army Mule's Carter 2. Newspaperofrecords BC 3. Discreet Lovers JCGC 4. TC 5. Enable BC 6. Catholic Boys BD To me, those were the best stories and horses of 2018 the rest is just bookkeeping. All the upcoming winners had wonderful years and I am sure mean the world to their respective connections, as they should. |
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I’ll probably be ridiculed for this being a weak opinion, but I’d say Imperial Hint’s win in the VANDERBILT ranks up there for me. May the laughing begiiiiiiin haha The way he powered down the stretch was an awesome thing to be watching. And although their second meeting cost me BEAUCOUP BUX, the Catholic Boy/Analyze It stretch battles were really entertaining.
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The complete list of Eclipse Award finalists is as follows:
Horse of the Year Accelerate (Lookin At Lucky) Justify (Scat Daddy) Monomoy Girl (Tapizar) 3-Year-Old Male Catholic Boy (More Than Ready) Justify (Scat Daddy) McKinzie (Street Sense) 3-Year-Old Female Midnight Bisou (Midnight Lute) Monomoy Girl (Tapizar) Rushing Fall (More Than Ready) 2-Year-Old Male Game Winner (Candy Ride {Arg}) Improbable (City Zip) Knicks Go (Paynter) 2-Year-Old Female Bellafina (Quality Road) Jaywalk (Cross Traffic) Newspaperofrecord (Ire) (Lope de Vega {Ire}) Male Sprinter Imperial Hint (Imperialism) Roy H (More Than Ready) Stormy Liberal (Stormy Atlantic) Female Sprinter Finley’sluckycharm (Twirling Candy) Marley’s Freedom (Blame) Shamrock Rose (First Dude) Male Turf Horse Expert Eye (GB) (Acclamation {GB}) Glorious Empire (Ire) (Holy Roman Emperor {Ire}) Stormy Liberal (Stormy Atlantic) Female Turf Horse A Raving Beauty (Ger) (Mastercraftsman {Ire}) Enable (GB) (Nathaniel {Ire}) Sistercharlie (Ire) (Myboycharlie {Ire}) Older Dirt Male Accelerate (Lookin At Lucky) City of Light (Quality Road) Gun Runner (Candy Ride {Arg}) Older Dirt Female Abel Tasman (Quality Road) Marley’s Freedom (Blame) Unique Bella (Tapit) Steeplechase Jury Duty (Ire) (Well Chosen {GB}) Optimus Prime (Fr) (Deportivo {GB}) Zanjabeel (GB) (Aussie Rules) Breeder Mike Abraham John D Gunther WinStar Farm LLC Owner Peter Brant Hronis Racing LLC Team Justify Apprentice Jockey Reylu Gutierrez Weston Hamilton Edgar Morales Jockey Irad Ortiz, Jr. Jose Ortiz Mike Smith Trainer Steve Asmussen Bob Baffert Chad Brown
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Another poor job by the voters in the human categories. Such a disgrace.
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Eclipse Winners:
2-Year-Old Male Game Winner (Candy Ride {Arg}) Improbable (City Zip) Knicks Go (Paynter) 2-Year-Old Female Bellafina (Quality Road) Jaywalk (Cross Traffic) Newspaperofrecord (Ire) (Lope de Vega {Ire}) 3-Year-Old Male Catholic Boy (More Than Ready) Justify (Scat Daddy) McKinzie (Street Sense) 3-Year-Old Female Midnight Bisou (Midnight Lute) Monomoy Girl (Tapizar) Rushing Fall (More Than Ready) Male Sprinter Imperial Hint (Imperialism) Roy H (More Than Ready) Stormy Liberal (Stormy Atlantic) Female Sprinter Finley’sluckycharm (Twirling Candy) Marley’s Freedom (Blame) Shamrock Rose (First Dude) Older Dirt Male Accelerate (Lookin At Lucky) City of Light (Quality Road) Gun Runner (Candy Ride {Arg}) Older Dirt Female Abel Tasman (Quality Road) Marley’s Freedom (Blame) Unique Bella (Tapit) Male Turf Horse Expert Eye (GB) (Acclamation {GB}) Glorious Empire (Ire) (Holy Roman Emperor {Ire}) Stormy Liberal (Stormy Atlantic) Female Turf Horse A Raving Beauty (Ger) (Mastercraftsman {Ire}) Enable (GB) (Nathaniel {Ire}) Sistercharlie (Ire) (Myboycharlie {Ire}) Steeplechase Jury Duty (Ire) (Well Chosen {GB}) Optimus Prime (Fr) (Deportivo {GB}) Zanjabeel (GB) (Aussie Rules) Apprentice Jockey Reylu Gutierrez Weston Hamilton Edgar Morales Jockey Irad Ortiz, Jr. Jose Ortiz Mike Smith Breeder Mike Abraham John D Gunther WinStar Farm LLC Owner Peter Brant Hronis Racing LLC Team Justify Trainer Steve Asmussen Bob Baffert Chad Brown
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Horse of the Year
Accelerate (Lookin At Lucky) Justify (Scat Daddy) Monomoy Girl (Tapizar)
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They got Hoss of the year right. Undefeated triple crown winner who didn't run at 2 . Congratulations Justify .
Was there any talk of longer Saratoga meet with Monday Tuesday dark ? Makes sense since attendance is sparse downstate. |
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But I was (with little hope) pulling for Accelerate. For among other reasons: "He capped off his season beating more Grade 1 winners in the Breeder’s Cup Classic then Justify beat in his entire career." --Chip Gehrke, Horseracingnation.com
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson |
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Both won 6
Accelerate ran one more race than Justify. Not the strongest set of older either.
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Justify was only eligible to beat the winners of the G1’s between juvenile season and the Triple Crown.. Hopeful - Sporting Chance Champagne - Firenze Fire DMR Futurity - Bolt d’Oro Breeders Futurity - Free Drop Billy Los Al Futurity - McKinzie (Solomini-DQ'd) AmPharoah/FrontRunner - Bolt d'Oro BC Juvenile - Good Magic BC Juvenile Turf - Mendelssohn Florida Derby - Audible Arkansas Derby - Magnum Moon HE BEAT EVERY ONE OF THEM EXCEPT McKINZIE.. WHOM HE COULDN’T FACE. There weren’t any other G1 winners that he could run against. WTF?
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I’m not sure how anyone thinks they saw a better female turf runner in this country in 2018 than Enable.
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine |
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No doubt, but does that demand she be the Division Champion? The Euro 'one start' campaigners are a weird dynamic for voting purposes.
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It is a debate that I understand. My reasoning has always been that precedent ha been set. Many single race Europeans have won titles. I always go back to Singspiel, who won the title and never won a race in this country. My position has always been if they want to change the rules to say a horse needs to have a minimum of starts here like 3-4 or maybe the majority of your starts have to be here, I’m ok with that. But until that happens, I think they should stick with awarding the best of those that’s most qualified. Having said that, I would have had no problem at all with Gun Runner being champion this year or Ghostzapper being champion in 2005. If one race is good enough to win a title, as has been done many times, who says that one race has to be in the Breeders’ Cup?
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine |