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Old 09-26-2017, 06:57 PM
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Exclamation 11/3-4 (BC): POST DRAWN ~ Sprint, F&M Sprint, T/Sprint, D/Mile







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Old 10-03-2017, 07:18 PM
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Old 10-03-2017, 08:15 PM
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Love Dick in the Sprint. For 2nd to Drefong.
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:02 PM
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Love Dick in the Sprint. For 2nd to Drefong.
As much as I love you buddy never say you love Dick 😎
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:23 PM
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Is Mor Spirit alive? who comes into the mile race off a layoff like that.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:43 PM
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Is Mor Spirit alive? who comes into the mile race off a layoff like that.
Byk thinks there is nothing unusual about his absence since the Met Mile.
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Old 10-04-2017, 04:32 AM
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Byk thinks there is nothing unusual about his absence since the Met Mile.
Har, har.. Baffert has explained how much trouble he's had getting him back from the Met effort. Here's his work from last Thursday:

http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/mo...ber-28th-2017/
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Old 10-04-2017, 09:41 AM
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Har, har.. Baffert has explained how much trouble he's had getting him back from the Met effort. Here's his work from last Thursday:

http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/mo...ber-28th-2017/
well either way he is shaping up to take a lot of money and be a great bet against in that case.
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well either way he is shaping up to take a lot of money and be a great bet against in that case.
Why? He crushes that field with a anything close to his Met. Look what the runner up has done since.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:04 AM
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Why? He crushes that field with a anything close to his Met. Look what the runner up has done since.

What is a proper futures price on this horse right now? Future meaning you lose in the wildly unlikely event he doesn't run.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:07 AM
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Mor Spirit is HARDLY anything close to resembling a lock in a field that looks to have Pavel, Practical Joke, and a few other quality horses lining up in the gate.

I was hoping Reddam and O'Neill took a swing in the Classic with Pavel. Thought for sure they'd be doing so after the injury to Irap.

For all of the negativity I see posted towards the Breeder's Cup and some of the schedules that trainers are taking leading up to that weekend, I'm pumped up as can BE to wager on these sets of races.

Dew, SethCarter, and myself are going to have a field day. A bonafide BONANZA if you will!
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What is a proper futures price on this horse right now? Future meaning you lose in the wildly unlikely event he doesn't run.
I dont know.
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Old 10-04-2017, 06:31 PM
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Har, har.. Baffert has explained how much trouble he's had getting him back from the Met effort. Here's his work from last Thursday:

http://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/mo...ber-28th-2017/
Im no workout expert, but that looked strong.
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Old 10-04-2017, 06:53 PM
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I dont know.
You have opinions on everything...so share one here. You're not an "I don't know" kind of guy.
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Old 10-04-2017, 06:58 PM
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You have opinions on everything...so share one here. You're not an "I don't know" kind of guy.
Im not a fan of the other major players as much as others. Practical Joke belongs in the Sprint. Im not sure about Pavel at all, his Dandy was good, but he beat nothing at Parx.
3-1 I guess. The layoff is an obvious concern though.
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:54 PM
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Im not a fan of the other major players as much as others. Practical Joke belongs in the Sprint. Im not sure about Pavel at all, his Dandy was good, but he beat nothing at Parx.
3-1 I guess. The layoff is an obvious concern though.

3:1 seems like a horrendous price given you lose if he doesn't run. I'll believe it when I see it, but I don't underestimate Baffert. Anyone else, and I would book him at 8:1.

You're not the only one that thinks that about Joke.
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Im not a fan of the other major players as much as others. Practical Joke belongs in the Sprint. Im not sure about Pavel at all, his Dandy was good, but he beat nothing at Parx.
3-1 I guess. The layoff is an obvious concern though.
Agreed on Practical Joke.

So if you've got a fair futures bet at 3-1 on MS, what would you take on Arrogate?
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:23 AM
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Agreed on Practical Joke.

So if you've got a fair futures bet at 3-1 on MS, what would you take on Arrogate?
I dont play futures.
Arrogate is under 5-2 @ post time though and im sure hes running.
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Old 10-05-2017, 07:40 AM
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3:1 seems like a horrendous price given you lose if he doesn't run. I'll believe it when I see it, but I don't underestimate Baffert. Anyone else, and I would book him at 8:1.

You're not the only one that thinks that about Joke.
Practical Joke in the mile is frustrating, "the mile" is frustrating, perhaps around 1 turn but these phony mile races at tracks that arent big enough to run a 1 turn mile are silly. The whole year at so many tracks they run 1 1/16, 1 70yd , 1 40yds they get to Nov and they just start the clock 12 seconds into the actual race. I really dont get why its necessary to deceive people
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Old 10-05-2017, 08:10 AM
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I dont play futures.
Arrogate is under 5-2 @ post time though and im sure hes running.

You can never be "sure" a horse is running.
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