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Sweet NS wandered like a drunken sailor down the lane. Flower Alley hasn't even cranked up yet but soon will. To predict that a three year old will best his elders at this point is not something I'm willing to do. |
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My prediction of Bernardini being the best horse is bold, but I also thought he'd win the Preakness and I was awarded by hitting the EX, TRI and SUPER...your prediction is bold, too, which is fine..I'm just saying that you are throwing a blanket over a significant amount of talented horse flesh if you are saying halfway through the year that they won't have an Eclipse horse....Have you even seen any of their babies run?...No, cause they won't run until Saratoga. So, what if they have a BC Juvenile or Juvenile Fillies winner that hasn't debuted yet?..Certainly not out of the question considering they spent hundreds of millions of dollars at auction on the crop of 2-year-olds they are about to unveil.....shaky prediction, but we'll see.. |
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Well Joel I live in saratoga. And pletcher has more talent in this barn up here in saratoga than the sheikh has throughout the world. YOu think Scat daddy and Minefield are great? Wait til Saratoga. Hes got babies breaking watches every morning, and many of them. Todd's 2Yo's will sweep every grade one in the Northeast this year, every one. You ain't seen anything yet. Wait until you see the Pletcher show this summer. Its a gonna be a smash hit. |
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I'd take any action on a two year old US champ prop(either sex) Pletchers barn vs all the Sheikh's horses, anywhere, any country.
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Does anyone wanna call me out on either prop?
Pletcher's barn vs Sheikh over all eclipses Pletcher's barn vs Sheikh two year old champs(both sexes) Go for it. |
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What? No takers? Geez. With all these worshippers of foreign sheikhs I thought someone would wanna take that action. Guess not.
USA!!!! |
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I'm glad that racing writers have been able to put aside their feelings and look at Bernardini's performance in the cold hard light of reality - it was brilliant. There is still so much more racing left but Bernardini is championship quality, of that I have no doubt. He's got the chance now to prove it on the track, as it should be. |
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I think it will be very interesting to see what they do with Discreet Cat and Bernardini after their projected next starts in the Jim Dandy and Haskell respectively. Assuming both stay sound, an obvious " if ", I wonder if they will race against each other in the Travers.
My guess is that with the Woodward now being run in Saratoga you will see one of them in the Travers and the other take on elders in the Woodward the following week. Just a guess but I think it makes some sense. |
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Don't you see one going in the Haskell and being saved for fall racing and one going Jim Dandy then Travers? |
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The Woodward basically is " fall racing ".
I just feel like with horses this good they will not run in races like the Super Derby or Pennsylvania Derby and will point for a combination of the Travers, Woodward and Jockey Club Gold Cup. Considering Discreet Cat's obvious issues I could easily see them waiting the additional week for the Woodward and then going directly to the BC. |
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Like I said, if anyone wants any Pletcher vs Sheikh action in ecplipses at even money count me in. |
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I guess you are right. Hes some horse, no doubt. But I will take Flower Alley against anyone alive in the BCC right now. |
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Don't get me wrong, he is a nice horse, and ran very well last year, but he hardly strikes me as a world beater. And, sorry, I find his late start troubling, and wonder what the true story may be. We already saw one disasterous return by one of that barn's stars, Indian Vale, and let's face it, the connections have not had an abundance of success in keeping horses together for long periods of time. |
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Well his Travers was awesome as was his BCC. I hear he had a breathing problem in the JCGC and tend to believe it after his BCC. I thinkhis BCC performance would have won 85% of BCC's ever run. And I think that they set a campaign designed for HOY. Melnyk has too much cash to race one like that who isn't right. |
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I'll prop bet Pletcher's fillies VS. Darley's fillies...niether is likely to win because of the law of numbers, but maybe we can say best finish between Pletcher fillies and Darley fillies, or do they have to win? ..You actualy have an advantage because I know Pletcher has that 1.2 million Johanessburg filly that Coolmore LOVES.. My ear is open...what are the conditions?.. |