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Old 03-01-2013, 11:15 AM
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Arrow NJ Sports Betting: Six years later, it’s official in New Jersey

http://www.drf.com/news/new-jersey-s...aw-struck-down

A federal judge late on Thursday upheld a challenge to a law authorizing sports betting in New Jersey, siding with a handful of professional sports leagues that said the law violated a federal ban on the practice.

The ruling, by U.S. District Court Judge Michael Shipp, is a setback to the state’s racetracks, which would have been allowed to offer sports betting along with the state’s casinos if the law was upheld. New Jersey is expected to appeal the decision, with the support of Gov. Chris Christie.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:27 AM
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Predictable.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:27 PM
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Yes!!!!!!
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:34 PM
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Not really a surprise.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:37 AM
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Relieing on legalized sports betting for the future.

http://www.wordontheshore.com/monmou...-soon-cms-2866
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:30 AM
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I hope Monmouth realizes what they are getting into. There's quite a few bettors who may just go to sports and not return to racing.
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Old 05-08-2014, 06:20 PM
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So I had a derby party and missed the super by a nose when Wicked Strong nosed the Rat. Most of my non racing friends were shocked that a Super bet could pay 8000 dollars for a modest bet. racing needs to focus on the fact racing provides the big scores and winning 8K betting sports at 110 to win 100 is so much more difficult.
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:33 PM
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So I had a derby party and missed the super by a nose when Wicked Strong nosed the Rat. Most of my non racing friends were shocked that a Super bet could pay 8000 dollars for a modest bet. racing needs to focus on the fact racing provides the big scores and winning 8K betting sports at 110 to win 100 is so much more difficult.
I gave a guy I know (an acquaintance, more of a friend of a friend) a 5 horse exacta box which he played for a buck (30.00 outlayed) and came back 170.00

The guy is a sports bettor who has never showed an interest in the track. Absolutely floored that he made 5x his investment- And called me this week to find out if I was playing this weekend - Wants to learn how to handicap horses.

Agree completely - A sports bettor that gets a taste of a big payout will at least show an interest in wanting to learn more -
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:43 AM
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So I had a derby party and missed the super by a nose when Wicked Strong nosed the Rat. Most of my non racing friends were shocked that a Super bet could pay 8000 dollars for a modest bet. racing needs to focus on the fact racing provides the big scores and winning 8K betting sports at 110 to win 100 is so much more difficult.
So true. Sorry about the near miss - you still did great handicapping to get that close.

I say the same thing - I have no interest in a less than 1:1 odds return.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:45 AM
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When friends of mine want to make a bet (on some other matter) - the sports bettors always say "straight up?"

I reply "I am a horseplayer - you've got to give me odds."
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:35 PM
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new william hill / monmouth article with new bar photo

http://www.theracingbiz.com/2014/05/...-parks-future/
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i think the meadowlands is working well and monmouth should follow suit. other ways and venues are needed for revenue to sustain these tracks. the slots will come one day. just a matter of time.
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:57 PM
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I gave a guy I know (an acquaintance, more of a friend of a friend) a 5 horse exacta box which he played for a buck (30.00 outlayed) and came back 170.00

The guy is a sports bettor who has never showed an interest in the track. Absolutely floored that he made 5x his investment- And called me this week to find out if I was playing this weekend - Wants to learn how to handicap horses.

Agree completely - A sports bettor that gets a taste of a big payout will at least show an interest in wanting to learn more -
He'll like it until he sees some of the weekday cards at a track like GG. Sports betting looks pretty good when you see small fields and a big takeout.
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Old 09-08-2014, 01:16 PM
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Christie comes through on Sports Betting; Monmouth, Freehold, ACRC, Meadowlands, Casinos OK'd to take action..

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...2168?cid=bitly

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie issued a directive Monday allowing his state's casinos and racetracks to offer sports betting without fear of criminal or civil liability.

The governor said he took his cue from previous federal court rulings that found that nothing in New Jersey law prohibits the casinos and horse racing tracks from offering sports betting.

His action is likely to be challenged in court by the professional and collegiate sports leagues that fought New Jersey's efforts to overturn a ban on sports betting in all but four states. That effort ended with the U.S. Supreme Court declining to hear the case.


ASBURY PARK PRESS: http://www.app.com/story/news/politi...ting/15290363/
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Old 09-08-2014, 01:39 PM
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Pretty sickening reading this thread and then noticing all of the casino shutdowns since this was posted.

Maybe they can find a buyer for Revel.
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Old 09-08-2014, 02:42 PM
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Christie comes through on Sports Betting; Monmouth, Freehold, ACRC, Meadowlands, Casinos OK'd to take action..

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...2168?cid=bitly

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie issued a directive Monday allowing his state's casinos and racetracks to offer sports betting without fear of criminal or civil liability.

The governor said he took his cue from previous federal court rulings that found that nothing in New Jersey law prohibits the casinos and horse racing tracks from offering sports betting.

His action is likely to be challenged in court by the professional and collegiate sports leagues that fought New Jersey's efforts to overturn a ban on sports betting in all but four states. That effort ended with the U.S. Supreme Court declining to hear the case.


ASBURY PARK PRESS: http://www.app.com/story/news/politi...ting/15290363/
What are the chances we actually see sports betting in NJ before Congress repeals laws that forbid it? Seems to me just a bunch of hot air
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:53 PM
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What are the chances we actually see sports betting in NJ before Congress repeals laws that forbid it? Seems to me just a bunch of hot air
Its coming...we had this discussion earlier where people said it would never happen.

The states are running out of money yet still are increasing their spending so here is easy money for the states....

they are legalizing drugs now, why would anyone care about betting on sports?

also I saw Adam Silver basically embracing sports betting as helpful to the NBA, he would not say that without some inkling as to what is going to happen.
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Its coming...we had this discussion earlier where people said it would never happen.

The states are running out of money yet still are increasing their spending so here is easy money for the states....

they are legalizing drugs now, why would anyone care about betting on sports?

also I saw Adam Silver basically embracing sports betting as helpful to the NBA, he would not say that without some inkling as to what is going to happen.
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Its coming...we had this discussion earlier where people said it would never happen.

The states are running out of money yet still are increasing their spending so here is easy money for the states....

they are legalizing drugs now, why would anyone care about betting on sports?

also I saw Adam Silver basically embracing sports betting as helpful to the NBA, he would not say that without some inkling as to what is going to happen.
Apparently on 10/6 there is a court date which will of course be postponed and delayed as those interests ice the puck.

Hope I am wrong and yes everyone including me wants to see it come to fruition but Delaware was done this road years ago and we were all sure they would be booking bets..
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Old 09-09-2014, 09:40 AM
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Credit - the reason why illegal sportsbooks will never go out of business.

Why pay the Borgata $330 to win $300 when you can keep the money in your wallet and bet it with Bruno the Bookie?

It will be successful, and am looking forward to my next trip to AC to see what platform they'll have.
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