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Old 05-11-2016, 04:09 PM
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Default 1/28 (GP): $12MM Pegasus World Cup

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...asus-world-cup

The Stronach Group announced May 11 the inaugural running of the $12 million Pegasus World Cup will be held Jan. 28 at Gulfstream Park.

With a purse that would make it the world's richest Thoroughbred race, the Pegasus World Cup will be contested at 1 1/8 miles on dirt and was created to attract the world's biggest stars in racing.

The race will be restricted to to 12 entries, whose connections will be required to pay $1 million each to buy a spot in the Pegasus World Cup starting gate.

The entrant's owner can then race, lease, contract or share a starter or sell their place in the starting gate. Original entrants will also have the first option to participate in future Pegasus World Cup races. All entrants will not only be competing for the world's largest purse but they will also share equally in 100% of the net income from handle, media rights, and sponsorships from the Pegasus World Cup, according to the Stronach Group announcement.

"The Pegasus World Cup will be conducted to the highest standards," said Frank Stronach, founder and honorary chairman of The Stronach Group, "and will held on Saturday, January 28th, thereby avoiding a conflict with either the Breeders' Cup or the Dubai World Cup."

The Stronach Group also announce that Jack Wolf, founder of Starlight Racing, has been retained as the CEO of the Pegasus World Cup to assist with the marketing and coordination of the race. Jack Wolf is the co-managing partner of Starlight Racing.

Tom Ludt, who is a board member of the Breeders Cup, will also be assisting with the marketing and coordination of the Pegasus World Cup.
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:20 PM
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I can't get over the fact that it's not 1 1/4 miles.

Is the $12 million guaranteed?
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:53 PM
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I can't get over the fact that it's not 1 1/4 miles.

Is the $12 million guaranteed?
Agree. 10f separates the men from the boys.
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Agree. 10f separates the men from the boys.
Not that big of a deal. lets spit it and go 1-3/16 ths and all will be well.
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Old 01-22-2017, 02:46 PM
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This just in

The Don...has just paid 3 million for a start in the Pegasus 9 furlong race assured his new Russian colt is the winner


Mr President, - a colt by AP Putin - from a DJ Trump mare; is trained by the Federations Dmitry Medvedev..to be riddin by Jose Tall-fence climber

the colt was seen on boarding an intercontinental flight flown by Tex Sutton, in a special plane made by Boeing which was gotten on sale cheap after the air force one program was scraped by Trump earlier in the month.

Mr President, the AP Putin undefeated colt has raced on 3 continents and Trump has promised his victory , no matter what it costs..Komrad.
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Old 01-22-2017, 02:51 PM
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if memory serves me, it was the last furlong, the 10th , in which the grey got to Chrome. and as baffert says, the grey one is a big lanky colt well horse now, that needs all 10 to get all played out in full stretch.

which leads me to another ramble, a quarter year has past, a new season, both are older... 6 to 4...

will the final 220 yards shorter mean that Chrome is gonna win the big money to sum an enormous bank role

my monies on Mr President the AP Putin colt
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Old 01-22-2017, 03:16 PM
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This just in

The Don...has just paid 3 million for a start in the Pegasus 9 furlong race assured his new Russian colt is the winner


Mr President, - a colt by AP Putin - from a DJ Trump mare; is trained by the Federations Dmitry Medvedev..to be riddin by Jose Tall-fence climber

the colt was seen on boarding an intercontinental flight flown by Tex Sutton, in a special plane made by Boeing which was gotten on sale cheap after the air force one program was scraped by Trump earlier in the month.

Mr President, the AP Putin undefeated colt has raced on 3 continents and Trump has promised his victory , no matter what it costs..Komrad.
Tragically I cannot get the time that I wasted reading this post back.
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I can't get over the fact that it's not 1 1/4 miles.

Is the $12 million guaranteed?
Tough to know who's prepared to go 10f in January.
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Old 05-12-2016, 07:32 AM
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Tough to know who's prepared to go 10f in January.
More importantly will Breeder differ standing a new stallion for 2/3 weeks for 1 season to participate. Example will a AP or Nyquist stay in training to compete, surely trainers will adjust training schedules etc. to have a shot at a 600k pay day.

The issue could lend itself into less 3 year olds retiring if healthy. With 2 6 million dollar pay days lurking over 90 days its going to be hard to retire many 3 year olds UNLESS they have exceptional pages, records, and demand
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Old 05-11-2016, 06:03 PM
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The race will be restricted to to 12 entries, whose connections will be required to pay $1 million each to buy a spot in the Pegasus World Cup starting gate.
Will there be 12 sets of connections who are willing to do that?
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Old 05-11-2016, 06:36 PM
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Will there be 12 sets of connections who are willing to do that?
Apparently. They were recruited over the last few months. Jack Wolf on ATR tomorrow to elaborate.
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Old 05-11-2016, 07:06 PM
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Weird hypothetical and likely dumb question...

You're basically buying a spot in the starters gate am I reading that right?

So if you're NYRA or Woodbine, etc...can you buy a spot then run an race where the winner gets the spot in the race?

Plus as the owner of the spot you get to share in the revenue,. etc all the other perks they're pushing?
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It's a crazy idea that might actually work. I like it.

Note that all owners would be sharing in the handle (could be strong- I figure $8-10 million so $2 million-ish in revenue), media rights (probably not much), and sponsorship (mid-6 figures) so the gamble drops to maybe $600k to win $7 million.
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Old 05-12-2016, 07:05 AM
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It's a crazy idea that might actually work. I like it.

Note that all owners would be sharing in the handle (could be strong- I figure $8-10 million so $2 million-ish in revenue), media rights (probably not much), and sponsorship (mid-6 figures) so the gamble drops to maybe $600k to win $7 million.
I think its brilliant and will crush the BC Classic which I can live with. Assuming many colts will come of the track and head to breeding season. There is a real reason not to retire colts and the impact on Classic seems imminent
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Default Pegasus World Cup Parking

Did anyone purchase from Gulfstream a parking pass to this event. A co-worker paid $50.00 to park in Cigar Lot B. She has the invoice, but has not received her parking pass. Several attempts to contact the track have failed.
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Old 01-22-2017, 09:30 AM
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Did anyone purchase from Gulfstream a parking pass to this event. A co-worker paid $50.00 to park in Cigar Lot B. She has the invoice, but has not received her parking pass. Several attempts to contact the track have failed.

I'm not surprised, unfortunately.

Having been to GP for 2 FL Derbies (Quality Road's '09 and Orb's '13) I'd have to say that if you are expecting the on track experience to be anything more than abject clusterfu**, you are going to be disappointed.
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I'm not surprised, unfortunately.

Having been to GP for 2 FL Derbies (Quality Road's '09 and Orb's '13) I'd have to say that if you are expecting the on track experience to be anything more than abject clusterfu**, you are going to be disappointed.
Same thing goes for Santa Anita opening day. Great track, great location. There are way too many events going on that day.
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Default Pegasus Undercard - Poseidon

Jockey Club Gold Cup (G1) winner Hoppertunity
leads a group of graded stakes winners among
111 horses nominated to the five supporting stakes
races, three of them graded, on the Pegasus World Cup Invitational (G1) program
Jan. 28 at Gulfstream Park.

A total of $1,025,000 in purses will be
available in the stakes leading up to the first
running of the Pegasus, with its world-record
purse of $12 million.

The Bob Baffert-trained Hoppertunity leads
30 horses by earnings nominated for the
inaugural running of the $400,000 Poseidon
Stakes at nine furlongs on dirt.
Hoppertunity prevailed in the Jockey Club Gold Cup by a halflength
over Effinex to pick up his second grade 1 victory.
He earned $2.3 million in 2016 to push
his career total to $3.9 million.
Baffert, who is preparing Arrogate for the
Pegasus, also nominated grade 1 winner Mor Spirit for the Poseidon.
Stanford, winner of the Dec. 17 Harlan's Holiday
Stakes (G3) at Gulfstream, was one of nine horses
nominated by leading trainer Todd Pletcher for the
Poseidon. Cherry Wine, second in the Preakness
Stakes (G1) and a winner of his only start at
Gulfstream, is also nominated.
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Pegasus, Poseiden....what has this guy been reading ?

maybe he should name races for the writers of the Gospels and epistles ?


Just a thought

should it be the matthew stakes, the mark stakes, etc..

or how about the

matthew, mark , luke and john allowance race
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Old 01-23-2017, 08:13 PM
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Default 1/28 (GP): Pegasus (G1), McKnight, Prevoyante, Bertie (G3's), more

3rd (12:30) Hurricane Bertie S. (G3)

7 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Genre Velazquez J R 123 L
2 Distinta Zayas E J 117 L
3 Curlin's Approval Saez L 117 L
4 Sugar Cone Bravo J 117 L
5 You Bought Her Lanerie C J 119 L
6 Improv Castellano J J 117 L
7 Bodacious Babe Lopez P 121 L
8 Linda Linda (CHI) Lezcano J 119 L



5th (1:30) Poseidon H.

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Mylute Gaffalione T 115 L
2 Ranger in Paradise Colon L H 111 L
3 Imperative Gallardo A A 118 L
4 Stanford Velazquez J R 120 L
5 Cherry Wine Lanerie C J 113 L
6 Madefromlucky Castellano J J 117 L
7 Papa Zulu Contreras L 112 L
8 Fearless Dragon Lopez P 110 L
9 Hy Riverside Ortiz J L 116 L



7th (2:32) Ladies' Turf Sprint S.

5 Furlongs (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $125,000

1 My Sister Caro Gallardo A A 116 L
2 Moon River (IRE) Rosario J 118 L
3 Ruby Notion Velazquez J R 116 L
4 Blue Bahia McCarthy T 116 L
5 Artesian Zayas E J 116 L
6 Brandy's Girl Lezcano J 118 L
7 Bibby Lanerie C J 118 L
8 Pretty Perfection Juarez N 118 L
9 Spectacular Me Ortiz J L 120 L
10 Triple Chelsea Garcia W A 120 L
11 Nite Delite Lopez P 118 L
12 Everything Lovely Castellano J J 118 L



9th (3:38) Gulfstream Park Turf Sprint S.

5 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $125,000

1 Rainbow Heir McCarthy T 120 L
2 Manhattan Dan Castellano J J 116 L
3 Long On Value Rosario J 120 L
4 Platinum Prince Saez L 116 L
5 Divine Warrior Gaffalione T 116 L
6 El Deal Zayas E J 118 L
7 Doctor J Dub Panici L 122 L
8 Super Spender Juarez N 120 L
9 Pay Any Price Castillo L A 116 L
10 Mongolian Saturday Montalvo C 122
11 Power Alert (AUS) Leparoux J R 120 L
12 Incensed Garcia W A 116 L



10th (4:14) La Prevoyante H. (G3)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Quiet Kitten Gaffalione T 117 L
2 Gypsy Eyes (IRE) Saez L 117 L
3 Try Your Luck Geroux F 121 L
4 Desiree Clary (GER) Castellano J J 119 L
5 Stay the Night Juarez N 117 L
6 Promotional Lezcano J 117 L
7 Arles (FR) Rosario J 117 L
8 Lobelia Lanerie C J 117 L
9 Flipcup Velazquez J R 119 L
10 Wapi (CHI) Leparoux J R 119 L
11 Paige Lopez P 121 L
12 Suffused (GB) Ortiz J L 123 L



11th (4:50) W. L. McKnight H. (G3)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Taghleeb Gaffalione T 121 L
2 Montclair (IRE) Prado E S 117 L
3 Diamond Bachelor Saez L 119 L
4 Danish Dynaformer Rosario J 121 L
5 Applicator Reyes L 117 L
6 Charming Kitten Smith M E 119 L
7 Twilight Eclipse Ortiz J L 119 L
8 Generous Kitten Geroux F 117 L
9 Patterson Cross Lezcano J 117 L
10 Mr Maybe Castellano J J 121 L
11 Sadler's Joy Leparoux J R 117 L
12 Hunter O'Riley Velazquez J R 117 L



12th (5:40) Pegasus World Cup Invitational S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $12,000,000

1 Arrogate Smith M E 124 L
2 Prayer for Relief Geroux F 124 L
3 Neolithic Velazquez J R 124 L
4 Noble Bird Leparoux J R 124 L
5 War Story Gallardo A A 124 L
6 War Envoy Saez L 124 L
7 Shaman Ghost Ortiz J L 124 L
8 Semper Fortis Gaffalione T 124 L
9 Keen Ice Castellano J J 124 L
10 Breaking Lucky Contreras L 124 L
11 Eragon (ARG) Prado E S 119
12 California Chrome Espinoza V 124 L
AE Stanford Velazquez J R 124 L
AE Sea Raven Contreras L 124 L
AE Madefromlucky Castellano J J 124 L
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