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Old 02-23-2016, 05:39 AM
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G1 Belmont Stakes ($1.5MM-3YO-12f)

1. Governor Malibu (Clement/Rosario) 12-1
2. Destin (Pletcher/Castellano) 6-1
3. Cherry Wine (Romans/Lanerie) 8-1
4. Suddenbreakingnews (Von Hemel/Smith) 10-1
5. Stradivari (Pletcher/Velazquez) 5-1
6. Gettysburg (Asmussen/P. Lopez) 30-1
7. Seeking the Soul (Stewart/Geroux) 30-1
8. Forever d'Oro (Stewart/J. Ortiz) 30-1
9. Trojan Nation (Gallagher/Gryder) 30-1
10. Lani (Matsunaga/Take) 20-1
11. Exaggerator (Desormeaux/Desormeaux) 9-5
12. Brody's Cause (Romans/Saez) 20-1
13. Creator (Asmussen/I. Ortiz Jr.) 10-1
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Old 02-23-2016, 06:06 AM
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Rally Cry off the disastrous trip last time.
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:00 AM
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Did I hear Tom say that this one most likely would run at SHRP this weekend? 2/27

4/2 (TP): SPIRAL (50/20/10/5)

Crescent Drive (Amoss)
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:10 AM
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Did I hear Tom say that this one most likely would run at SHRP this weekend? 2/27

4/2 (TP): SPIRAL (50/20/10/5)

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never mind..I found it, Texas Heritage Stakes, wife is working Saturday, I might just mosey over to the Beltway and check it out, looks like a nice card, l the rain should end today and it will turn off cool, sunny, and dry up to Saturday....
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I have him at 150-1 in the future book. I will be pulling hard.

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Old 02-23-2016, 06:18 PM
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I have him at 150-1 in the future book. I will be pulling hard.

Paul
He should have beat Chad Brown's horse last time for whatever thats worth.
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Old 02-24-2016, 09:22 AM
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looking forward to seeing Mor Spirit, Smokey Image and Exaggerator in the San Felipe and how they stack up against each other. Also want to see if Suddenbreakingnews can back up his last race. And of course Mohaymen this weekend.
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Sunland Derby officially cancelled..
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looking forward to seeing Mor Spirit, Smokey Image and Exaggerator in the San Felipe and how they stack up against each other. Also want to see if Suddenbreakingnews can back up his last race. And of course Mohaymen this weekend.
Don't sleeoon Danzing candy here. Looks like nice prep race
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The chances Economic Model is involved in the early pace are about nil.
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RAMPELLINI: Vorticity, the runner-up in both the Jerome and Withers stakes at Aqueduct, will miss the Rebel, trainer Chuck Lawrence said. The horse is based at Fair Hill in Maryland and had a fever this week.

“It was better [Wednesday], but he was off his feed up until today, and he just wasn’t himself,” Lawrence said Thursday. “I didn’t want to go into a big race having that in the back off my mind, that he’d had a couple of off days.”

Lawrence said Vorticity’s options include the Blue Grass, Florida Derby, Wood Memorial, and Arkansas Derby.
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3/26 (FG): LOUISIANA DERBY (100/40/20/10)

1. Gun Runner (Asmussen/Geroux)
2. Greenpointcrusader (Schettino/Velazquez)
3. Battery (Battery/Castellano)
4. Conquest Windycity (Casse/Rocco)
5. Candy My Boy (Brueggemann/Torres)
6. Mo Tom (Amoss/Lanarie)
7. Tom's Ready (Stewart/BJ Hernandez)
8. Uncle Walter (Maker/Albarado)
9. Dazzling Gem (Cox/Bridgmohan)
10. Zapperini (Foley/Leparoux)
11. Forevamo (Stall/C. Hernandez)
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whats the deal with Swipe? I know he got banged up but is I thought he was back to work but so far not pointing anywhere?

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BREAKING NEWS: Trainer Keith Desormeaux announces that Swipe, 2nd place finisher in the Breeders Cup Juvenile, will make his 2016 debut in the G3 Lexington Stakes at Keeneland April 16th. The Lexington offers 10 points to the winner of the race and Desormeaux says if he wins, Swipe will go to the Derby.
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Old 04-02-2016, 02:04 PM
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Shagaf, Flexibility confirmed for Wood Memorial

OZONE PARK, N.Y. - Beating the rain that fell this morning at Belmont Park, trainer Chad Brown worked a trio of his 3-year-olds at 7:40 a.m. with an eye on final-round Kentucky Derby preps. Shortly after the works, Brown confirmed that Grade 3 Gotham Stakes winner Shagaf and Grade 3 Jerome Stakes winner Flexibility will both run in the Grade 1, $1 million Wood Memorial at Aqueduct on April 9.

Working as a team, Shadwell Stable's Shagaf and Klaravich Stables and William H. Lawrence's Flexibility covered four furlongs on the training track in :48 2/5. Brown said the colts, who started and finished on even terms, got their first eighth of a mile in :13 1/5.

"This is the first week that I worked them together," Brown said. "Shagaf and Flexibility are generally good work horses. They had plenty left and were well within themselves - pretty even work. That would be a normal half-mile work for them."

The undefeated Shagaf will be ridden in the Wood Memorial by Irad Ortiz Jr., who piloted him to a 1 1/4-length victory in the Gotham.

In the weeks since the Gotham, Shagaf has been schooled at the starting gate, as well as practice sessions loading onto a van. Brown said the colt has done very well in both exercises.

"The horse is a little quirky; particularly with tight spots," Brown explained. "If he decides he doesn't want to do something, he will stick his toes in there. He won't get mean or hot or aggressive, he just won't do it. Going into the starting gate was a problem early on and loading into vans was a problem. Sometimes going into the saddling enclosure is a problem, but we can avoid that by saddling outside of it. But, unfortunately, we can't avoid the starting gate or the van.

"My staff and the gate crew have been working with him and he has made a lot of progress," Brown continued. "We've been schooling him going into the van since the Gotham, and he has been going right in, and the same with the gate. All in all, I'm proud of the horse's progress mentally in terms of being agreeable to the stuff we want him to do."

Flexibility, who will be ridden by Manny Franco in the Wood Memorial, is coming off a layoff. After winning the Jerome to open his 3-year-old campaign on Jan. 2, Flexibility finished fourth as the favorite in the Grade 3 Withers at Aqueduct on Jan. 30.

"I think Flexibility can be competitive in the Wood, particularly with the way he is training - he is training really well," Brown remarked. "I think the layoff has done him well. As far as where he needs to be numbers-wise to compete with the top group of 3-year-old dirt horses, I think the race will do him well for his next start after that. If he is able to run good enough in the Wood, and grab some more [qualifying] points for the Derby, I think his second start off the layoff will be his best.

"We're trying to accomplish two things here," Brown continued. "Obviously, we would love the horse to win, but if he just runs well, and earns his way into the Derby with both a good performance and points, I'm inclined to take him to Kentucky, knowing his second start off a layoff will be his better start."

Brown indicated that his other Wood Memorial nominee, My Man Sam, who worked a half-mile in :50 Saturday at Belmont, will ship Sunday to Keeneland to run in the Blue Grass Stakes on April 9.
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Looking at the current point totals and the preps that are remaining... Fellowship and Mo Tom are right on the bubble... They both have 32 and I can see that possibly 20 might have 34 or more... That being said .. There are always some defections because of health issues.
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Steve, will you be posting probables for the Oaks and Derby undercards? I've been compiling my own list based on your guests' comments.
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Find it hard to believe Lanerie would be on Mo Tom after Amoss wanted to kill him in new orleans
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Steve, will you be posting probables for the Oaks and Derby undercards? I've been compiling my own list based on your guests' comments.
Absolutely..
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