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Old 02-13-2013, 06:11 AM
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Default 6/8 (BEL) 145th Belmont Stakes: Field at 14 as 'Tiz' passes

6/8: BELMONT STAKES

1. Orb (McGaughey/Rosario)
2. Oxbow (Lukas/Stevens)
3. Will Take Charge (Lukas/Court)
4. Revolutionary (Pletcher/Castellano)
5. Overanalyze (Pletcher/Velazquez)
6. Palace Malice (Pletcher/Smith)
7. Giant Finish (Dutrow/Prado)
8. Unlimited Budget (Pletcher/Napravnik)
9. Freedom Child (Albertrani/Saez)
10. Golden Soul (Stewart/Albarado)
11. Incognito (McLaughlin/I. Ortiz)
12. Vyjack (R. Rodriguez/Leparoux)
13. Midnight Taboo (Pletcher/G. Gomez)
14. Frac Daddy (McPeek/A. Garcia)
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:08 AM
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I think we're all on pins and needles waiting for the UAE Derby probables. That is such an important race, they really should have given it like 500 Derby points.
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Old 02-13-2013, 09:05 AM
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It's been said before, but of all the complaints about the new points system, the ridiculous joke that is the UAE Derby being made a 100 pt race while the IL Derby was excluded is just disgraceful. CDI has no regard for who's left in their path of destruction.
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Old 02-13-2013, 12:32 PM
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It's been said before, but of all the complaints about the new points system, the ridiculous joke that is the UAE Derby being made a 100 pt race while the IL Derby was excluded is just disgraceful. CDI has no regard for who's left in their path of destruction.
i think the 20 points available for the winner of the derby trial might rival the 100 for the uae. i understand the trial is their own product and has both "derby" and "trial" in it's name but they may as well make points available in a race the following friday.

when was the last time this was actually used as a derby prep and not a stepping stone to the preakness or a later race?
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Old 02-13-2013, 12:42 PM
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when was the last time this was actually used as a derby prep and not a stepping stone to the preakness or a later race?
Don't Get Mad won it in 2005 and then was 4th to Giacomo, Closing Argument and Afleet Alex in the Derby.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:00 AM
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Shanghai Bobby next race looks like Fla Derby on 3/30. He has 24 points. If he gets some bad luck or doesn't fire that day he doesn't get in the derby. Then we may get some sanity as they restructure the point value of these races to not penalize horses running Nov through Feb. Any system that assigns the Sunland derby as much as the Fountain of Youth is suspect. I am sure everyone will say it is a work in progress but for fuk sake how much thought does it take to see making the Sunland Derby and Spiral stakes worth 5 Times the Breeders Cup Juvy is just wrong. I really like the concept of points over dollars but they didn't give the implementation much thought IMO.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:19 PM
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Maybe the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques Cup can be the next win and you're in race.

Ridiculous. I had no idea how many points that one was worth. Who is the genius behind this?
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:57 PM
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2/23: FOUNTAIN OF YUTE

Violence (Pletcher)
Orb (McGaughey)
Elmuhatid (McLaughlin)
Majestic Hussar (Kenneally)
Joshua’s Comprise (Rose)
Sky Captain (Casse)
Cerro (Motion)
Falling Sky (Terranova)
Speak Logistics (Plesa)

My Name Is Michael (Mott)
What is a "yute"?
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Old 02-20-2013, 04:39 PM
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Really like this thread. Easy place to at least get a picture of who is going where!
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Old 02-23-2013, 05:18 AM
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Brisnet 'Road to Derby' Weekend PP's package: http://www.brisnet.com/brisnet_promo...hipSeries1.pdf
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:30 PM
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4/13: BLUE GRASS STAKES

Dewey Square (Romans)
Romans lists the Florida Derby, the Wood, La Derby or the Ark. Derby in the latest Dewey video (I know everyone here catches every one of them too).

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Old 03-25-2013, 12:23 PM
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$2 Million UAE Derby Draw

...........................................RATING

1)Law Enforcement....................110
2)Elleval..................................102
3)Now Spun (USA).....................109
4)Lines Of Battle (USA)...............106
5)Dice Flavor (USA)....................108
6)Emotif....................................98
7)Secret Number........................112
8)Zahee...................................105
9)Shuruq (F) (USA).....................112
10)Keiai Leone............................105
11)Snowboarder (USA).................102
12)Hes Had Enough (USA).............110

Does anyone know who is 3 yr old or KY Derby Eligible? Beside Dice Flavor and HHE?
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:09 PM
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$2 Million UAE Derby Draw

...........................................RATING

1)Law Enforcement....................110
2)Elleval..................................102
3)Now Spun (USA).....................109
4)Lines Of Battle (USA)...............106
5)Dice Flavor (USA)....................108
6)Emotif....................................98
7)Secret Number........................112
8)Zahee...................................105
9)Shuruq (F) (USA).....................112
10)Keiai Leone............................105
11)Snowboarder (USA).................102
12)Hes Had Enough (USA).............110

Does anyone know who is 3 yr old or KY Derby Eligible? Beside Dice Flavor and HHE?
Law Enforcment 7yr NYB sprinter??
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Old 03-31-2013, 03:51 PM
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Per Santa Anita Stable Notes, Demonic is possible for the Arkansas Derby or the Blue Grass.
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:58 PM
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Palace Malice may run in the Blue Grass. Pletcher sounded like it was a real possibility on TV immediately after the race, and Cot Cambell said the same thing as quoted in an article in the Augusta Chronicle:

"Not quite ready to concede that there is no Run for the Roses in Palace Malice’s future, Campbell noted, “If he comes out of this thing all right, we’d have to take a look at the Blue Grass (to be run three weeks hence at Keeneland). He deserves another chance.”"

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No big surprise; Shanghai Bobby off the Derby Trail.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:50 AM
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No big surprise; Shanghai Bobby off the Derby Trail.
Another precocious Pletcher trainee that will disappear without any explanation or diagnosis.
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:15 AM
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4/13: ARKANSAS DERBY

Oxbow (Lukas)
Overanalyze (Pletcher)
Texas Bling (Dunham)
Falling Sky (Terranova)
Den's Legacy (Baffert)
War Academy (Baffert)
Heaven's Runway (Martin)
Looking Cool (Nafzger)
Demonic (Sadler)
Carve (Asmussen)



4/13: BLUE GRASS STAKES

14 maximum. In order of preference (GSW first; Earnings second)

Uncaptured (Casse)
Noble Tune (C. Brown)
Dynamic Sky (Casse)
West Hills Giant (Terranova)
Java's War (McPeek)
Charming Kitten (Pletcher)
Rydullic (Contessa)
Fear the Kitten (Maker)
Palice Malice (Pletcher)
Undrafted (Ward)
Channel Isle (Lukas)
My Name Is Michael (Mott)
Tesseron (Jo. Carroll)
Dewey Square (Romans)
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Footbridge (Harty)
Eton Blue (Zito)
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:15 AM
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5/4: KENTUCKY DERBY

Orb (McGaughey/Rosario)
Verrazano (Pletcher/Velazquez)
Goldencents (O'Neill/Krigger)
Revolutionary (Pletcher/Castellano)
Lines of Battle (O'Brien/Moore)
Vyjack (Rodriguez/TBD)
Will Take Charge (Lukas/Court)
Itsmyluckyday (Plesa/Trujillo)
Govenor Charlie (Baffert/Bejarano)
Black Onyx (Breen/Bravo)
Normandy Invasion (Brown/Lezcano)
My Lute (Amoss/Mena)
Oxbow (Lukas/Stevens)
Uncaptured (Casse/Bridgmohan)
Super Ninety Nine (Baffert/Garcia)
Java's War (McPeek/Martinez)
Merit Man (Hess/Desormeaux)
Den's Legacy (Baffert/Albarado)
Falling Sky (Terranova/Espinoza)
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Borel picks up the mount on Texas Bling, lowering his price. I'll be pulling for Carve as well.
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