Chrome!

[Left Bank]

That was probably one of the best rides, and best races I have seen in a long time!!! Congrats Chromie!!

[LARHAGE]

And Beholder ran her heart out! That was a great performance by California Chrome! Excellent race and Dortmund ran his race .

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

And Beholder ran her heart out! That was a great performance by California Chrome! Excellent race and Dortmund ran his race .

Dortmund ran his race? I think its fair to say he bounced/regressed off his career top last time.

[cakes44]

Dortmund needs to go BC Dirt Mile.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

If Victor rode that way in the Belmont Stakes, HE would have been the 12th Triple Crown Champion he's a MONSTER now!

[pweizer]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Dortmund ran his race? I think its fair to say he bounced/regressed off his career top last time.

No, I think it fair to say that Chrome is just in a different league. That is no knock on Dortmund who is a very nice horse. But, he is just not as good Chrome, who is the best horse in training right now.

Paul

[SundayStar]

Originally Posted by pweizer

No, I think it fair to say that Chrome is just in a different league. That is no knock on Dortmund who is a very nice horse. But, he is just not as good Chrome, who is the best horse in training right now.

Paul

Yup

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

If Victor rode that way in the Belmont Stakes, HE would have been the 12th Triple Crown Champion he's a MONSTER now!

He grabbed a quarter. I'm not sure you can blame it on Victor.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by pweizer

No, I think it fair to say that Chrome is just in a different league. That is no knock on Dortmund who is a very nice horse. But, he is just not as good Chrome, who is the best horse in training right now.

Paul

I reluctantly have to concede that it's hard to argue against California Chrome at this point but I'm still going with Songbird. Just opinion though. No facts to back it.

[LARHAGE]

I don't see Songbird even remotely in the same class as Chrome, he would dust her.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I reluctantly have to concede that it's hard to argue against California Chrome at this point but I'm still going with Songbird. Just opinion though. No facts to back it.

I'm of the popular belief around here that Songbird, while very good, is a tad over rated.

Hell, I think Enola Gray is better.

[pweizer]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I reluctantly have to concede that it's hard to argue against California Chrome at this point but I'm still going with Songbird. Just opinion though. No facts to back it.

I am a huge Songbird fan. But, to put her in the same breath as the top older horse is silly. She has only run in restricted races and has yet to face older fillies or mares let along males. Chrome horrified two of the top older horses in training. Big difference.

Paul

[10 pnt move up]

Judging buy some of the pros on twitter u get the feeling that Songbird for her record is not that highly thought of. She is somewhere between very very good and great.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Judging buy some of the pros on twitter u get the feeling that Songbird for her record is not that highly thought of. She is somewhere between very very good and great.

I think that's a pretty accurate way of evaluating her, with the added comment that the rest of the crop is mostly poor.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think that's a pretty accurate way of evaluating her, with the added comment that the rest of the crop is mostly poor.

I actually think the 3 year old fillys are a nice group. MUCH better then the colts. Comparing anything filly to Rachel is ridiculous.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I actually think the 3 year old fillys are a nice group. MUCH better then the colts. Comparing anything filly to Rachel is ridiculous.

Huh?

[OldDog]

Two years ago, or for that matter, last year, who could have predicted that California Chrome would be The Horse as a five year old? And would have $13M in earnings? Every time we see him this year he looks impressive as can be, on the muscle and sharp. He's a great one, and a wonderful tribute to Art Sherman.

[Indian Charlie]

It makes you appreciate Shared Belief even more.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

That was probably one of the best rides, and best races I have seen in a long time!!! Congrats Chromie!!

I thought the same thing. (especially the horse) He eased at the end and ran 2:00.13 Could have broke Candy Rides record of 1:59.11 if he kept going.

I'm giving him the Horse of the Year award now cause I don't think there is another horse in this country who can beat him.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by pweizer

I am a huge Songbird fan. But, to put her in the same breath as the top older horse is silly. She has only run in restricted races and has yet to face older fillies or mares let along males. Chrome horrified two of the top older horses in training. Big difference.

Paul

As I said, there are no facts to back my feelings so I won't even try. I wouldn't use the fact that she has only faced her own sex or hasn't run outside of restricted races as the argument against her. Sometimes, the toughest competition comes from your own group. Easy Goer was destroying older horses but couldn't handle Sunday Silence. Before her last couple, many felt that Beholder was the best in the country so beating her might have been a tougher challenge than beating the boys.

Again, I'm conceding that I probably am overrating Songbird because her sorry competition has made her look better than she is and if my life depended on it, I'd take Chrome over her. But I just have a feeling that we are seeing a truly special horse and the best is yet to come from her and she's gonna surprise some people.