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Old 08-12-2012, 10:22 PM
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Canterbury Race #8 Orfan Ole

Charles Town Race #6: God's Grace Valley


Del Mar Race #3 General Causeway

Del Mar Race #6 Catienus Gold


Ellis Park Race #5: Mr Gues

Ellis Park Race #6: Emotional Release


Mountaineer Race #7 Speedy Bullet

Monmouth Race #7: Joey's Genie

Saratoga Race #2: Kate Me Mate

Saratoga Race #5: Ginger's Joe

Portland Meadows Race #5: Jazzoomin

All 8 of them got crushed ... most finishing dead last.

Two of them were in the mid 20-to-1 odds range ... in one race, A John Shireffs trained runner won at 46/1 at Del Mar while one of my bums of the day faded to an 8th place finish at 27/1.

40 down, only 960 more to go.
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Old 08-12-2012, 11:12 PM
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Delaware Race #1: Is That Blue


Fort Erie Race #4: Malibu Slew

Fort Erie Race #8: Toddling Fox


Finger Lakes Race #2: B J's A Honey

Finger Lakes Race #7: Bistro Soiree


Parx Race #10: Great Thor


Saratoga Race #1: Freedom Writer


Suffolk Race #2: One Chin Again and Agave Ridge
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Old 08-13-2012, 01:26 AM
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Thanks to the big money at Saratoga and Del Mar, the bums raked in a stunning $21,111 today, pushing the total to a whopping $34,144. I expect that one day total will be hard to beat going forward.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:32 PM
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Delaware Race #1: Is That Blue


Fort Erie Race #4: Malibu Slew

Fort Erie Race #8: Toddling Fox


Finger Lakes Race #2: B J's A Honey

Finger Lakes Race #7: Bistro Soiree


Parx Race #10: Great Thor


Saratoga Race #1: Freedom Writer


Suffolk Race #2: One Chin Again and Agave Ridge

Five of them ran -- and they all finished up the track.

45 down, only 955 more to go.
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Today's bums lost a relatively small $1,070 (not that I wouldn't mind an extra $1,070 for nothing) bringing the total wasted so far up to $35,214.

I have to say that the ability to even pick 45 horses in a row and not have any even make the superfecta is pretty impressive.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:32 PM
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I agree. Keep up the good work.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:28 AM
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Parx Race #5 Irishdancedforfree

Suffolk Race #5 Cobra Classic and Unbridled Devil

Suffolk Race #7 Tico Tom

Mountaineer Park Race #4 Sword Of Gold

Mountaineer Park Race #7 Ridin' Hard

Presque Isle Downs: Race #6 Call Me Clyde

Fairmount Park Race #3 Gambling Bug
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:50 PM
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Doug, I know you had that solid day a few years ago in the contest out west. Santa Anita when it was still poly, maybe? I think you won 8 of 9 races that day, or something of the sort. Have you ever picked 10 winners in a row?
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:06 PM
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Doug, I know you had that solid day a few years ago in the contest out west. Santa Anita when it was still poly, maybe? I think you won 8 of 9 races that day, or something of the sort. Have you ever picked 10 winners in a row?
As a public handicapper...

My 'Best Bet' in the newspaper once won 12 times in a row.

The most consecutive 'top pick' winners I've had in the newspaper is 7 (and it was over 2 days. I had top pick winners in the late double, and the next night the first five races)

As a bettor -- I'm primarily an exotic bettor...and I look for value.

I will certainly make win bets in situations where I think I'm getting great value (even on low-odds horses in the rare occasions I find them to be a great value) -- but I wouldn't have any idea what the longest streak of win bets I cashed is. Not something I think about because win bets are somewhat few and far between for me.

Picking 10 in a row is F'ing hard. As soon as I either succeed or fail at this task, I will start a thread in here trying to pick one winner a day for 10 days and see if I can do it.
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:26 PM
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As a public handicapper...

My 'Best Bet' in the newspaper once won 12 times in a row.

The most consecutive 'top pick' winners I've had in the newspaper is 7 (and it was over 2 days. I had top pick winners in the late double, and the next night the first five races)

As a bettor -- I'm primarily an exotic bettor...and I look for value.

I will certainly make win bets in situations where I think I'm getting great value (even on low-odds horses in the rare occasions I find them to be a great value) -- but I wouldn't have any idea what the longest streak of win bets I cashed is. Not something I think about because win bets are somewhat few and far between for me.

Picking 10 in a row is F'ing hard. As soon as I either succeed or fail at this task, I will start a thread in here trying to pick one winner a day for 10 days and see if I can do it.
I know you talk a lot about vertical wagers, but never hear you speak much about horizontals?
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:40 PM
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The only real draw back to my approach -- is that I have probable bet backs spread out at tracks all over the entire country...and it's a rare thing that there are two of them in the same p3 or p4 sequence.

This forces me to play more verticals and less horizontals. I'm also looking at some cheaper tracks where, even offshore, you can't really do anything with multi-win bets.

I virtually never use the 'all' button in any of my wagers. It's wasteful -- and if your goal is a long term profit -- you're hurting yourself.

You'll miss out on some real nice scores and have some VERY frustrating outcomes from time to time -- and it's probably not the best thing for my mental health ... but overall, when it comes to which horses I use with my key horse, you're going to do better if you try to be more precise and aggressive -- instead of fishing and wasteful. Doesn't matter if its a multi-race or single-race bet.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:28 PM
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Delaware Park Race #4: Bayside Seabrez

Del Mar Race #8: Derby Prince

Evangeline Race #1: Wild Broad

Hoosier Race #2: My Ten Dollars and He's Outa Bounds

Presque Isle Downs Race #5: Klassi Berti

Portland Meadows Race #7: Stelladelnorth

Saratoga Race #2: Stormin Esther

Saratoga Race #6: Cinnamon Beach (Turf Only)

Suffolk Race #9: Whylee

Albuquerque Race #6: Bridesgonewild

Thistle Downs Race #2: Bam Bam Jam
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Parx Race #5 Irishdancedforfree

Suffolk Race #5 Cobra Classic and Unbridled Devil

Suffolk Race #7 Tico Tom

Mountaineer Park Race #4 Sword Of Gold

Mountaineer Park Race #7 Ridin' Hard

Presque Isle Downs: Race #6 Call Me Clyde

Fairmount Park Race #3 Gambling Bug

Six of them ran today. The streak of no 4th place finishes was broken. Amazingly, one of the horses at Suffolk went off at 11-to-1 odds. Pretty short price for a horse with an estimated 0.00% chance of winning.

A horse won the 1st race at Suffolk today at odds of 65/1.

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20120814&RN=1

That horse was 4th fastest in the race, one point away from being tied for 3rd fastest, had made the early lead at this class level last time out, and had better late pace numbers than the two favorites, who were both speedball quitters. If something happened to the two favorites, the horse was as competitive as anyone left.

Anyway, 51 down, only 949 more to go.
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:37 AM
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Thanks largely to the aforementioned 11-1 shot, today's bums lost a cool $3,844 bringing the grand total up to $39,058.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:55 PM
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Bums for Thursday:


Canterbury Park Race #2: Biorn

Canterbury Park Race #6: Straitupcashhomey

Calder Race #1: Audrey

Charles Town Race #3: Our Summer Breeze

Delaware Race #5: Dubai's Debut

Hoosier Race #2: Great Sky Dancer

Louisiana Downs Race #3: Bigolcountryboy

Penn National Race #7: Tri's Hero

Penn National Race #9: Sea's Sweet Billie and Three Kisses

Saratoga Race #11: Grace's Neh Neh
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Delaware Park Race #4: Bayside Seabrez

Del Mar Race #8: Derby Prince

Evangeline Race #1: Wild Broad

Hoosier Race #2: My Ten Dollars and He's Outa Bounds

Presque Isle Downs Race #5: Klassi Berti

Portland Meadows Race #7: Stelladelnorth

Saratoga Race #2: Stormin Esther

Saratoga Race #6: Cinnamon Beach (Turf Only)

Suffolk Race #9: Whylee

Albuquerque Race #6: Bridesgonewild

Thistle Downs Race #2: Bam Bam Jam
All 12 of them ran -- and all 12 of them got dusted. So far, none of them have finished in the top 3.

63 down, only 937 more to go.
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:11 AM
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Today was a good day to go to the track, as the nags were responsible for a big $14,436 bringing the total amount of futile wagers to $53,494. At this rate it's not impossible that over $1 million will be lost during this challenge.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:40 AM
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Bums For Friday:


Arlington Park: Race #1: Nuckser

Arlington Park: Race #6: Stage Tapper

Arapahoe Park: Race #6: Colorado High

Arapahoe Park: Race #9: Robyns Return

Canterbury Park: Race #1: Run Trevor Run

Canterbury Park: Race #5: Demi's No Trump

Charles Town Race #2: Reggae King

Charles Town Race #5: Ethlenes Merlot

Ellis Park Race #6: Bright White Sox

Hoosier Race #3: Whata Waki

Hastings Race #7: Secret Satin

Albuquerque Race #9: Amor de Mi Alma

Presque Isle Downs Race #7: Velvet Dancer

Remington Park Race #3: Ruby Pauline & Lady Teacup

Saratoga Race #5: Licentious Eyes

Saratoga Race #8: Saint Anna Carina

Thistle Downs Race #8: L. G. Twins

Woodbine Race #2: Twilight Shadow
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:34 PM
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Canterbury Park Race #2: Biorn

Canterbury Park Race #6: Straitupcashhomey

Calder Race #1: Audrey

Charles Town Race #3: Our Summer Breeze

Delaware Race #5: Dubai's Debut

Hoosier Race #2: Great Sky Dancer

Louisiana Downs Race #3: Bigolcountryboy

Penn National Race #7: Tri's Hero

Penn National Race #9: Sea's Sweet Billie and Three Kisses

Saratoga Race #11: Grace's Neh Neh
Biorn actually ran in the 5th at Canterbury ... one horse scratched, the other ten all got buried.

73 down, only 927 more to go.
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Old 08-17-2012, 01:36 AM
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Today's nags managed to attract $6,131 in failed win wagers, which brings the running total up to $59,625.
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