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Old 02-24-2015, 02:34 PM
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Default 2/27-3/1 (CD): Kentucky Derby Future Wager -- Pool 3

Kentucky Derby Future Wager -- Pool 3

No. Horse (Trainer) Pool 1 odds Pool 2 odds Pool 3 M/L

1 American Pharoah (B. Baffert) 12-1 10-1 8-1
2 Bolo (C. Gaines) 3-5 (field) 5-2 (field) 50-1
3 Carpe Diem (T. Pletcher) 15-1 12-1 12-1
4 Danzig Moon (M. Casse) 3-5 (field) 5-2 (field) 50-1
5 Daredevil (T. Pletcher) 48-1 40-1 30-1
6 Dortmund (B. Baffert) 9-1 10-1 8-1

7 El Kabeir (J. Terranova) 74-1 39-1 30-1
8 Far From Over (T. Pletcher) 3-5 (field) 5-2 (field) 15-1
9 Far Right (R. Moquett) 3-5 (field) 48-1 20-1
10 Firing Line (S. Callaghan) 3-5 (field) 35-1 20-1
11 International Star (M. Maker) 3-5 (field) 44-1 20-1
12 Itsaknockout (T. Pletcher) 3-5 (field) 30-1 20-1

13 Keen Ice (D. Romans) 3-5 (field) 5-2 (field) 50-1
14 Khozan (T. Pletcher) 3-5 (field) 25-1 15-1
15 Lord Nelson (B. Baffert) 72-1 41-1 30-1
16 Mr. Z (W. Lukas) 47-1 44-1 50-1
17 Ocean Knight (K. McLaughlin) 3-5 (field) 18-1 15-1
18 Ocho Ocho Ocho (J. Cassidy) 29-1 26-1 20-1

19 Prospect Park (C. Sise) 3-5 (field) 35-1 30-1
20 Texas Red (K. Desormeaux) 14-1 9-1 12-1
21 The Great War (W. Ward) 72-1 40-1 30-1
22 Upstart (R. Violette) 53-1 12-1 15-1
23 War Story (T. Amoss) 3-5 (field) 5-2 (field) 30-1
24 Field (all others) 3-5 5-2 3-1
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Old 02-24-2015, 04:35 PM
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Bolo.

I'm nowhere as convinced with him taking to the dirt as I was with Barbaro, but if he does, I think it's over.
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What about the oaks pool? Anyone got a feel for it? Haven't heard much about the girls
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What about the oaks pool? Anyone got a feel for it? Haven't heard much about the girls
I thought Birdatthewire looked like a winner last Saturday but couldn't get by. Still think she looks like some nice potential. Already ran twice at CD and appears to handle the track. Wouldn't want less than the M/L.......
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Old 02-26-2015, 10:31 AM
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Whats the odds American Pharoah is any lower then 8-1 come derby day? Who would ever make that bet?

Bolo 50-1 Im in... thats about it in this pool
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Old 02-26-2015, 03:31 PM
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A little bizarre not to see Metaboss on the list. He deserves to be on there more than Bolo, who isn't even certain to compete in a Derby prep.
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Old 02-26-2015, 04:36 PM
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A little bizarre not to see Metaboss on the list. He deserves to be on there more than Bolo, who isn't even certain to compete in a Derby prep.
Nothing is certain in life beyond the usual taxes and death, but Bolo is scheduled to go next weekend.

Bolo is light years more likely to win the Derby.
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Nothing is certain in life beyond the usual taxes and death, but Bolo is scheduled to go next weekend.

Bolo is light years more likely to win the Derby.
Maybe, but who is more likely to actually be in the Derby. Some people just want something to root for.
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Old 02-26-2015, 07:24 PM
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Nothing is certain in life beyond the usual taxes and death, but Bolo is scheduled to go next weekend.

Bolo is light years more likely to win the Derby.
I dropped $30 on metaboss at 75-1 at the Wynn. This weekend
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:46 AM
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I was a little late getting this put together, but it includes a table with past winners and exacta finishers, odds, payouts and the number of horses to make to the Derby each year. Also, I write about my strategy for the exacta in the future wager and how that has played out each year since they added the exacta in 2009. The link below will take you to my website where you can download the guide in .pdf format. It's free, enjoy!

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Nothing is certain in life beyond the usual taxes and death, but Bolo is scheduled to go next weekend.

Bolo is light years more likely to win the Derby.
Both of their dirt prospects seem questionable right now.

But, one has Derby points and the other doesn't. I just think people would have wanted to bet on Metaboss too.
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Old 02-27-2015, 09:18 PM
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Both of their dirt prospects seem questionable right now.

But, one has Derby points and the other doesn't. I just think people would have wanted to bet on Metaboss too.
The one without the points is a significantly more capable runner.
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Old 02-28-2015, 11:47 AM
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charlie, 1st off love the avatar, i always wondered who the hell that was till i saw the movie and that guy was pretty good in flick

2nd and more importantly, have you heard anyhting about Bolo working on the dirt? i saw something on the triple crown show on hrtv and , to my very untrained eye, it didn't appear that he was enjoying it. have you heard anything else? i agree that the horse is wicked talented and quick as balls but i was wondering if you had heard anything about any other dirt works. thanks.
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Old 02-28-2015, 01:07 PM
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charlie, 1st off love the avatar, i always wondered who the hell that was till i saw the movie and that guy was pretty good in flick

2nd and more importantly, have you heard anyhting about Bolo working on the dirt? i saw something on the triple crown show on hrtv and , to my very untrained eye, it didn't appear that he was enjoying it. have you heard anything else? i agree that the horse is wicked talented and quick as balls but i was wondering if you had heard anything about any other dirt works. thanks.
Check out the 'IT Crowd' on Netflix. That's what he's known for, and the show is actually funny.

Bolo always works on dirt, so that talk last month of him hating dirt in his workouts is perplexing.
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yes the Bolo work that they showed it just didn't look like he was enjoying it very much but hey its future bets what difference does it really make just fun to bet and have a rooting interest moving forward.
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Wagering has been suspended on #21, The Great War.

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Put a little on Ocean Knight and War Story, and the ex.
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FINAL Kentucky Derby Future Wager -- Pool 3

No. Horse (Trainer) Pool 1 odds Pool 2 odds Pool 3 M/L

1 American Pharoah (B. Baffert) 12-1 10-1 8-1
2 Bolo (C. Gaines) 3-5 (field) 5-2 (field) 30-1
3 Carpe Diem (T. Pletcher) 15-1 12-1 10-1
4 Danzig Moon (M. Casse) 3-5 (field) 5-2 (field) 40-1
5 Daredevil (T. Pletcher) 48-1 40-1 40-1
6 Dortmund (B. Baffert) 9-1 10-1 9-1

7 El Kabeir (J. Terranova) 74-1 39-1 45-1
8 Far From Over (T. Pletcher) 3-5 (field) 5-2 (field) 13-1
9 Far Right (R. Moquett) 3-5 (field) 48-1 30-1
10 Firing Line (S. Callaghan) 3-5 (field) 35-1 25-1
11 International Star (M. Maker) 3-5 (field) 44-1 22-1
12 Itsaknockout (T. Pletcher) 3-5 (field) 30-1 30-1

13 Keen Ice (D. Romans) 3-5 (field) 5-2 (field) 25-1
14 Khozan (T. Pletcher) 3-5 (field) 25-1 13-1
15 Lord Nelson (B. Baffert) 72-1 41-1 35-1
16 Mr. Z (W. Lukas) 47-1 44-1 40-1
17 Ocean Knight (K. McLaughlin) 3-5 (field) 18-1 23-1
18 Ocho Ocho Ocho (J. Cassidy) 29-1 26-1 24-1

19 Prospect Park (C. Sise) 3-5 (field) 35-1 25-1
20 Texas Red (K. Desormeaux) 14-1 9-1 14-1
21 The Great War (W. Ward) 72-1 40-1 SCR
22 Upstart (R. Violette) 53-1 12-1 15-1
23 War Story (T. Amoss) 3-5 (field) 5-2 (field) 30-1
24 Field (all others) 3-5 5-2 4-1
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