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Old 04-30-2013, 05:14 PM
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Arrow 5/3 (CD): 139th Kentucky Oaks; 5 Undercard Stakes

6th (1:26) La Troienne S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Imposing Grace Gomez G K 118 L
2 Authenticity Velazquez J R 118 L
3 More Chocolate Rosario J 120 L
4 Believe You Can Napravnik R 120 L
5 On Fire Baby Johnson J M 123 L
6 Class Included Lanerie C J 118 L
7 Draw It Santana R Jr 118 L



7th (2:08) Edgewood S.

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Street of Gold Bridgmohan S X 118 L
2 Broken Spell Mena M 118 L
3 Kitten's Dumplings Rosario J 118 L
4 Judy In Disguise (GB) Smith M E 118 L
5 Birdlover (GB) Krigger K 118 L
6 Private Ensign Lanerie C J 118 L
7 Emotional Kitten Trujillo E 118 L
8 Praia Garcia Alan 118 L
9 Tokyo Time Castellano J J 118 L
10 Wave Theory Leparoux J R 118 L
11 Adriani Rocco J S Jr 118 L



8th (3:02) Eight Belles S. (G3)

7 Furlongs | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Chortle Torres F C 118 L
2 Fusaichiswonderful Castellano J J 118 L
3 Blueeyesintherein Court J K 118 L
4 Sittin At the Bar Bridgmohan S X 120 L
5 Renee's Titan Gutierrez Mario 123 L
6 Neith Lebron V 118 L
7 Spring Venture Albarado R J 118 L
8 Gold Medal Dancer Lanerie C J 118 L
9 So Many Ways Gomez G K 118 L
10 Irish Lute Hernandez B J Jr 118 L
11 Dancinginthecircle Napravnik R 118 L
12 Touch Magic Graham J 118 L
13 Guadalupe High Mena M 120 L
14 Calistoga Rosario J 118 L



9th (3:52) Alysheba S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Patrioticandproud Rosario J 118 L
2 Laugh Track Mena M 118 L
3 Right to Vote Santana R Jr 118 L
4 Hymn Book Gomez G K 118 L
5 Richard's Kid Krigger K 118 L
6 Take Charge Indy Napravnik R 118 L
7 Macho Macho Nakatani C S 118 L
8 Bourbon Courage Castellano J J 118 L
9 Cyber Secret Albarado R J 120 L



10th (4:44) American Turf S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Anyriderill Do Mena M 118 L
2 Bashaar Johnson J M 118 L
3 Channel Isle Rocco J S Jr 118 L
4 Noble Tune Castellano J J 120 L
5 War Dancer Garcia Alan 118 L
6 Positively Napravnik R 118 Blk-On L
7 I'll Call Prado E S 118 L
8 Tenforthemoney Lanerie C J 118 L
9 Admiral Kitten Smith M E 120 L
10 Fire Guard Alvarado J 118 L
11 Joelito Rosario J 118 L
12 Redwood Kitten Trujillo E 118 L
13 Prado Cat Stevens G L 118 L



11th (5:45) Longines Kentucky Oaks (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Silsita Stevens G L 121 L
2 Midnight Lucky Bejarano R 121 L
3 Beholder Gomez G K 121 L
4 Unlimited Budget Castellano J J 121 L
5 Seaneen Girl Napravnik R 121 L
6 Princess of Sylmar Smith M E 121 L
7 Pure Fun Leparoux J R 121 L
8 Dreaming of Julia Velazquez J R 121 L
9 Rose to Gold Borel C H 121 L
10 Flashy Gray Alvarado J 121 L
11 Close Hatches Rosario J 121 L
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:38 PM
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i wonder if a petition to bar any more 'kitten' names would work with the jockey club......
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:57 PM
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I need some help in the Eight Belles and American Turf.

Thinking hard about riding Midnight Lucky alone in the Oaks.
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:31 PM
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I need some help in the Eight Belles and American Turf.

Thinking hard about riding Midnight Lucky alone in the Oaks.
In the American Turf Im using 4,5,13. I believe War Dancer is something special. Ill press him.
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:34 PM
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Do these six stakes make up the pick six?
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:37 PM
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Do these six stakes make up the pick six?
Yes.
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:23 AM
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Richard's Kid at 1 1/16? Sounds like a lock for 5th or 6th.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:15 AM
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I need some help in the Eight Belles and American Turf.

Thinking hard about riding Midnight Lucky alone in the Oaks.
In the Eight Belles, I'm very much leaning on Blueeyesintherein, no way this filly will be 8-1 (IMO). Nice opening race in 2013, and appears to handle Churchill no problem. If wet, should be able to handle that also. Gold Medal Dancer has had 2 nice races and not sure what the upside might be for her. Couple of nice works at Churchill also and can run some if there is moisture in the track.

In the American Turf, it's hard for me also to get past Noble Tune and War Dancer as they both appear to be coming up nicely to this race. But, very interested in Bashaar also after the romp in the slop. Breeding suggests that he should handle the grass and I think Danny Peitz wants to see what he has for options in the summer (grass or synthetic).

Midnight Lucky would be a scary single for me in the Oaks but will probably have to use with Unlimited Budget and Dreaming of Julia.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:53 AM
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I need some help in the Eight Belles and American Turf.

Thinking hard about riding Midnight Lucky alone in the Oaks.
Love Gold Medal Dancer's chance in 8 belles
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:35 AM
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David Grening ‏@DRFGrening 21s Flashy Gray will scratch from Friday's Kentucky Oaks due to a bruised right front foot, trainer Bill Mott said.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:43 AM
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In the American Turf Im using 4,5,13. I believe War Dancer is something special. Ill press him.
I'm going to have to watch a replay of that last race, but War Dancer, Positively, and Tenforthemoney finished within a half length of each other; all closed into what appeared to be a falling apart late type of race.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:15 PM
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In the American Turf Im using 4,5,13. I believe War Dancer is something special. Ill press him.
I think Noble Tune is the one, and i will really press him.

Does Laugh Track stand any chance whatsoever, in hell, to wire those boys in the Alysheba??
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:01 PM
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11th (5:45) Longines Kentucky Oaks (G1)
R 121 L
6 Princess of Sylmar Smith M E 121
I am not understanding the crazy odds on her.

Such a nice horse.

She'll definitely hit the board...

Maybe I'm nuts but I'm using her in the top spot in a couple of plays.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:11 PM
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I'm going to have to watch a replay of that last race, but War Dancer, Positively, and Tenforthemoney finished within a half length of each other; all closed into what appeared to be a falling apart late type of race.
Watch the replay. The pace was hot, but War Dancer had a ton of trouble at the start. Ateam pointed out the pace kind of negates the trouble. I guess I agree with him. I just think the horse has done nothing wrong on turf. The horse who beat him first out came back to win a Stakes at Keeneland for Pletcher. I also love the way Garcia is riding right now. Check out his turf ride in Belmonts 90k overnight Stakes today.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:13 PM
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I think Noble Tune is the one, and i will really press him.

Does Laugh Track stand any chance whatsoever, in hell, to wire those boys in the Alysheba??
In the Alysheba I like Take Charge Indy and Hymn Book. Im going to let Cyber Secret beat me and run a big race outside of Oaklawn. Ill admit I always like Take Charge Indy, but he ran well last time. That Cigar Street could be a total monster.
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Anyone want to offer a single in the pick 4....tough sequence.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:09 PM
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Anyone want to offer a single in the pick 4....tough sequence.
Take Charge Indy?
Really tough to come up with a single in this sequence.
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Midnight Lucky,Yep She's a SINGLE!

14 with 6,8,9 with 4 with 2 $18.00
A's with One B 2 $0.50 pick P5: 5 with 2,8,9,14 with 6,8,9 with 4 with 2 $6.00
3 $0.50 pick P5: 3,4,10 with 11 with 6,8,9 with 4 with 2 $4.50
4 $0.50 pick P5: 3,4,10 with 2,8,9,14 with 4,7 with 4 with 2 $12.00
5 $0.50 pick P5: 3,4,10 with 2,8,9,14 with 6,8,9 with 3,5,12 with 2 $54.00
A's with Two B's 6 $0.50 pick P5: 5 with 11 with 6,8,9 with 4 with 2 $1.50
7 $0.50 pick P5: 5 with 2,8,9,14 with 4,7 with 4 with 2 $4.00
8 $0.50 pick P5: 5 with 2,8,9,14 with 6,8,9 with 3,5,12 with 2 $18.00
9 $0.50 pick P5: 3,4,10 with 11 with 4,7 with 4 with 2 $3.00
10 $0.50 pick P5: 3,4,10 with 11 with 6,8,9 with 3,5,12 with 2 $13.50
11 $0.50 pick P5: 3,4,10 with 2,8,9,14 with 4,7 with 3,5,12 with 2 $36.00
A's with One C 12 $0.50 pick P5: 6,7,11 with 2,8,9,14 with 6,8,9 with 4 with 2 $18.00
13 $0.50 pick P5: 3,4,10 with 1,5,13 with 6,8,9 with 4 with 2 $13.50
14 $0.50 pick P5: 3,4,10 with 2,8,9,14 with 5 with 4 with 2 $6.00
15 $0.50 pick P5: 3,4,10 with 2,8,9,14 with 6,8,9 with 13 with 2 $18.00
Total: $226.00
Tabular Description
Bet Type Ticket Race 7 Race 8 Race 9 Race 10 Race 11 $ Per Bet Cost of Ticket
All A Entries 1 3,4,10 2,8,9,14 6,8,9 4 2 $0.50 $18.00
A's with One B 2 5 2,8,9,14 6,8,9 4 2 $0.50 $6.00
3 3,4,10 11 6,8,9 4 2 $0.50 $4.50
4 3,4,10 2,8,9,14 4,7 4 2 $0.50 $12.00
5 3,4,10 2,8,9,14 6,8,9 3,5,12 2 $0.50 $54.00
A's with Two B's 6 5 11 6,8,9 4 2 $0.50 $1.50
7 5 2,8,9,14 4,7 4 2 $0.50 $4.00
8 5 2,8,9,14 6,8,9 3,5,12 2 $0.50 $18.00
9 3,4,10 11 4,7 4 2 $0.50 $3.00
10 3,4,10 11 6,8,9 3,5,12 2 $0.50 $13.50
11 3,4,10 2,8,9,14 4,7 3,5,12 2 $0.50 $36.00
A's with One C 12 6,7,11 2,8,9,14 6,8,9 4 2 $0.50 $18.00
13 3,4,10 1,5,13 6,8,9 4 2 $0.50 $13.50
14 3,4,10 2,8,9,14 5 4 2 $0.50 $6.00
15 3,4,10 2,8,9,14 6,8,9 13 2 $0.50 $18.00
Total: $226.00
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:53 PM
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Watch the replay. The pace was hot, but War Dancer had a ton of trouble at the start. Ateam pointed out the pace kind of negates the trouble. I guess I agree with him. I just think the horse has done nothing wrong on turf. The horse who beat him first out came back to win a Stakes at Keeneland for Pletcher. I also love the way Garcia is riding right now. Check out his turf ride in Belmonts 90k overnight Stakes today.
He did spot the field a solid 3 lengths in that race. I wanted to downgrade him due to his maiden win; the 3rd, 4th and 5th betting choices all went down in a spill, and he was clear of trouble. But I guess that win at Keeneland showed he was legit. Only question is there's not much speed in the race on Friday.
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I love the 'old-school' distance works for On Fire Baby.
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